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Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Mon May 29, 2023 10:47 pm
by rafydedel
Div A

Rafydedel (Albanian 1356) defeats Zawzgrzyt (Nicopolis Crusade 1396) 42-15.

The Albanians were more numerous and had brought some artillery to help against heavily armoured knight units.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 8:20 am
by Kroche
Division B

Kroche (Sicilian 1200-1266AD) defeats Triarii (German Imperial 1200-1319AD)

57% loss to 62% loss

63pts Kroche
57pts Triarii

Field a little bit narrowed due to water course. Hill and rough on the left and a patch of rough on the right. Germans brought lots of Knights and medium (armoured) cavalry, supported by spearmen and raw crossbowmen. They angled their advance left to right, moving away from the water. Sicilians occupied the hill on the left with Arab foot and spearmen with mounted Knights to the right and centre and archers in the rough. Sicilians pushed their right forward as the Germans angled their movement away and managed to catch a couple of stragglers before the opposing Knights clashed in the centre. The Germans pushed towards the hill on the left and had enough Knights to charge vs spearmen in the Sicilian centre/left. Once the armies were fully engaged there was not much change in the lines and it came down to who could hold out the longest. Scores were pretty level the whole way through and it came down to small wins, such as a rallying Sicilian armoured spearmen unit blocking a German Knight from making a rear charge it had set up the previous turn - that charge could have broken what remained of the Sicilian left and gave the Sicilians the time they needed to charge their units, which had penetrated from the right, into the back of the German centre and get the breaks to move above 60 points. A very close match which could easily have gone the other way. GG

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 9:42 pm
by hscic
Div E
hscic (Lythuanian 1455 - 1500) defeats dragmio (Polish 1455 - 1500) 47%-63%. Score 73 - 47

The battle developed in two distinct areas with some barricades acting as a hinge. After a long attrition fight the Lithuanians managed to narrowly prevail over the Polish whose heavy cavalry fails to be decisive. TY dragmio for the match. It was a hard fight.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Tue May 30, 2023 10:11 pm
by Ray552
Div B

As Triarii has not posted it yet, here's a report:

Triarii (Sicilian 1200-1266) defeats ray552 (Latin Greece 1205-1319), 60-34 (score 86-34)

The mirror match is almost complete.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 7:47 am
by Kroche
Division B

Kroche (Order of St John 1450-1500AD) defeated XLegione (Genoese 1450-1475AD) 50% - 64%

Kroche 70pts
XLegione 50pts

A lot of rough and a stream across the middle with the main hills on the Order of St John side. A very tight game saw crossbowmen fight against crossbowmen with bolts and in melee. Heavy infantry clashed to the left in open ground between a hill and rough. This was a narrow area which did not allow the Genoese billmen to all get engaged and some units waiting were fortunately disrupted through a rout in the front line. Genoese were weaker on their other wing and took more losses there, Order of St John were weaker in the centre after their medium foot came off worse, but a couple of mounted Men at Arms made it difficult for Genoese to move out of the rough to exploit their numbers there. Eventually Genoa just took more casualties; although there was no decisive victory in one area of the line the Order of St John caused more routs to claim victory. GG

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 9:00 pm
by rafydedel
Div A,
It seems my opponent missed to report a result,

Zawzgrzyt (Albanian 1356) defeats rafydedel (crusade of Nico polis 1396) 45-16

Albanian were too nimble for my heavy troops

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Wed May 31, 2023 9:16 pm
by XLegione
Division B

XLegione (Order of St John 1450-1500AD) defeated Kroche (Genoese 1450-1475AD) 60% - 51%


XLegione 69pts
Kroche 51pts

Thanks for the game

Ciao
XLegione

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:11 am
by hscic
Div E
hscic (Polish 1455 - 1500) defeats dragmio (Lythuanian 1455 - 1500) 56%-60%. Score 64 - 56

Another match with an uncertain outcome. In fact, it resulted in a confused cavalry fight where the Polish narrowly prevailed thanks to the resilience of their heavy cavalry. TY to dragmio also for this hard fought battle.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2023 2:08 pm
by tyronec
Just 5 results left, one in Div A and 4 in Div B.
Last day tomorrow (Friday), if the game is not finished then post the standing score.
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Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:09 am
by Ray552
Div B

ray552 (Sicilian 1200-1266) defeats Triarii (Latin Greece 1205-1319), 62-54 (score 66-54)

Very tough battle, one more turn and it would have been Triarii posting this.

Many thanks for the great game.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:43 pm
by Triarii
Div B

Triarii (Sicilian 1200-1266) defeats ray552 (Latin Greece 1205-1319), 60-34 (score 86-34)

Yet another very tough battle, and another great game vs ray552.

Many thanks for the series of great games.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:34 pm
by Rosedelio
Div A

Rosedelio (Byzantine) defeats Zawzgrzyt (Fatimid Egyptian) 47-19. Score: 101-19

As the Egyptians shifted most of their forces toward the weaker Byzantine left wing of raw spears and medium cav, the Byzantine right of knights, klibs, and S&A followed up to fight the stragglers.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:39 pm
by Triarii
Div B

Just in case Kroche has no time to post'

Kroche (German) defeats Triarii (Sicilian) 60-57 score 63-57.

Epic struggle probably determined by two very tough stands by fragmented Imperial units.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:57 pm
by Kroche
Division B

Kroche (German Imperial 1200-1319AD) defeated Triarii (Sicilian 1200-1266AD)

57% loss to 60% loss

63pts Kroche
57pts Triarii

Another extremely close contest vs Triarii, but one where the Sicilians seemed to be a couple of turns away from a decisive lead. Germans moved away from the Sicilians who had made better occupation of the high ground on the left of the battlefield. As Germans were forming a line with a bit of distance between them and the hill and rough terrain they were harassed by lots of light horse. Sicilians brought mainly Knights and missile troops. The Knights caused plenty of problems causing multiple cracks in the German line, but were unable to break through. German spearmen and low country spearmen proved very resilient and a dismounted knight unit tanked about 80% of the Sicilian missiles without flinching (until auto breaking). Towards the end the match was more even as the Sicilian Knights weakened, but I don't know how the battle was won. I finished my 22nd turn 59-58 down, but during the rally phase things happened and Germans were in front 60-57.

All matches in this HOML4 Medieval division were very enjoyable and super close. Thanks to my opponents and also tyronec for organising. I have 4 minutes left, but will leave it there 8)

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:56 am
by tyronec
Final results.
The ongoing scores for the Triarii/XLegione games were sent to me by PM. That completes scores for all the games, so great to have ALL results in and nothing to adjudicate.
Thanks to all the participants and good to see many close matches.
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Div A. !st. Rosedelio, 2nd Questar, 3rd. Eric.

Div B. 1st. Lennard, 2nd. Kroche, 3rd. Ray.

Div C. 1st. Random with 8 wins and top score in Medieval, 2nd. angusosborne, 3rd Bagatrix.

Div D. 1st. Carpenkm, 2nd. edb 3rd IMC.

Div E. 1st hscic, 2nd. mberisso 3rd. gfs.


This season Medieval was with large battles. Having played it out do people have a preference; stay with 1600, return to 1200 or something else ?

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 8:04 am
by tyronec
Combined ratings at the end of season 4.
The ratings for each period are calculated using their ratings from last season plus their scores in each game multiplied by their opponents rating.
The combined rating averages their ratings across both periods, or their rating from last season if they have not played this season.
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Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:23 pm
by hscic
Stay with 1600.

Giordano (hscic)

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:28 pm
by Lennard
tyronec wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:56 am
This season Medieval was with large battles. Having played it out do people have a preference; stay with 1600, return to 1200 or something else ?
I would prefer a return to 1200.

Also thank you for organizing this amazing tournament!

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:18 pm
by Ray552
Lennard wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:28 pm
tyronec wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:56 am
This season Medieval was with large battles. Having played it out do people have a preference; stay with 1600, return to 1200 or something else ?
I would prefer a return to 1200.

Also thank you for organizing this amazing tournament!
I agree with Lennard on 1200 point armies.

[Edit] For Medieval, that is. Ancients is great at 1600.

Thank you for the tournament, looking forward to HOML 5.

Re: HOML 4 Medieval Results.

Posted: Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:19 pm
by rafydedel
Lennard wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:28 pm
tyronec wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 7:56 am
This season Medieval was with large battles. Having played it out do people have a preference; stay with 1600, return to 1200 or something else ?
I would prefer a return to 1200.

Also thank you for organizing this amazing tournament!
I personnally prefer 1600, in particular for ancient