Slitherine

It looks like most of the inital Russian mechs will survive, so at least Kragdob won't have to rebuild them. He can build solely defensive units for the remainder of the summer, maybe building some new offensive units right before winter. Still, it looks like the Russians are in for a tough fight. If Kragdob can save Stalingrad in 1941, I will send my congratulations.

June 2nd 1941 fair


Barbarosa in normal progress .



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Yeah, it looks like Kragdob will be able to evacuate the Mechs, even in the south. Well, he could make some concentrated attacks there, but then Morris would destroy all heavy units quickly... I'm wondering what Morris plans to do in the north. Will he go for Leningrad or concentrate his forces in the centre in order to create a stabilised frontline for the winter period?

Strong forces in South seem to be going for Stalingrad and/or Caucasus. He does have the time to do it.
Could go for Moscow in the center as well. Interesting strategy seen here of advancing on narrow fronts to concentrate offensive punch. Patton would have the courage to do this, but few other commanders would risk the supply problems associated with this. Whether Morris wins big or loses big, we are seeing something new here once again.

shawkhan wrote:Whether Morris wins big or loses big, we are seeing something new here once again.

This looks like Morris's old Axis strategy resurrected, to me. The key for Kragdob will be to either lose a lot of territory OR a lot of units. He can't afford both. If the USSR is going to sacrifice a lot of units in 1941, then they need to keep more territory to recover the losses. Not sure of Kragdob can directly challenge Morris's southern advance in this game though.

If I were in Kragdob's shoes, I would trade land for time. Sacrifice Stalingrad, if necessary, but don't lose Moscow and Leningrad, as usually losing two out of three key Soviet cities (Leningrad, Stalingrad, Moscow) is a very bad sign for the Allies. Anyway, the point is that there is only so much that Morris can do in the south - it's not exactly an easily defensible position, because the Axis player will need to evacuate their troops when the Soviets counter-attack in Poland. The supply levels are bad, too.

joerock22 wrote:

shawkhan wrote:Whether Morris wins big or loses big, we are seeing something new here once again.

This looks like Morris's old Axis strategy resurrected, to me. The key for Kragdob will be to either lose a lot of territory OR a lot of units. He can't afford both. If the USSR is going to sacrifice a lot of units in 1941, then they need to keep more territory to recover the losses. Not sure of Kragdob can directly challenge Morris's southern advance in this game though.

yes, looks very familiar!

richardsd wrote:

joerock22 wrote:

shawkhan wrote:Whether Morris wins big or loses big, we are seeing something new here once again.

This looks like Morris's old Axis strategy resurrected, to me. The key for Kragdob will be to either lose a lot of territory OR a lot of units. He can't afford both. If the USSR is going to sacrifice a lot of units in 1941, then they need to keep more territory to recover the losses. Not sure of Kragdob can directly challenge Morris's southern advance in this game though.

yes, looks very familiar!

After so many changes against bloc strategy , we still have our new bloc strategy .

June 22nd 1941 fair


Babarosa in normal progress . & The 8th army restart to attack in Lybia .


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Lybia

Nobody for defense the east side of the Dnepr river. Where are the Russians ?

Kragdob realised that it's pointless to defend against this overwhelming attack in the south so early. He will probably make a stand near Rostov or maybe even near Stalingrad.

Rostov is probably too far to the west. Better to let the Germans move into the supply level 3 zone and form a defense line near Stalingrad and in the Caucasus. Russia can quickly regain lost territory during the Russian winter offensive.

Stauffenberg wrote:Rostov is probably too far to the west. Better to let the Germans move into the supply level 3 zone and form a defense line near Stalingrad and in the Caucasus. Russia can quickly regain lost territory during the Russian winter offensive.

so professional advice ! But to execute it is not a easy job .

July 12th 1941 fair


Barbarosa comes to the 4th turn . normal progress . few Russian units killled but some Gars ! It looks there will be a tough fight in the coming severe winter !


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In Lybia , the 8th army also in normal progress .Topruk still hold .

If the russians are retreating behind Rostov could it not be taken advantage of by letting the mech/armor forces bypass it North and go straight for Stalingrad while the Axis minor Corps clean up the Donets and worry about the caucasus flank on their own?

The only response to this allied move seems to be to try to take advantage of it to the max and hitting them as soon as possible. If the russians aren't gonna defend till Stalingrad then tanks and mechs should be able to by pass most things to be left to the minor corps. In the case above I would look to move everything I can north of Donbass to go around and come from the north, but I am a noob anyway.

Hitting satlingrad from the north would also seem preferable to due to caucasus flank that would have to come across to assist and better volga river approach.

I'm following this with interest trying to plan my own barbarossa. Intimidating operation it is.

Rojas4 wrote:If the russians are retreating behind Rostov could it not be taken advantage of by letting the mech/armor forces bypass it North and go straight for Stalingrad while the Axis minor Corps clean up the Donets and worry about the caucasus flank on their own?

The only response to this allied move seems to be to try to take advantage of it to the max and hitting them as soon as possible. If the russians aren't gonna defend till Stalingrad then tanks and mechs should be able to by pass most things to be left to the minor corps. In the case above I would look to move everything I can north of Donbass to go around and come from the north, but I am a noob anyway.

Hitting satlingrad from the north would also seem preferable to due to caucasus flank that would have to come across to assist and better volga river approach.

I'm following this with interest trying to plan my own barbarossa. Intimidating operation it is.

you should try being on the receiving end of one of Morris's barbarossa's - makes you sweat I can tell you

Aug 1st 1941 fair


Barbarosa continue , it seems Russians concentrate some of their mainbody around Leningrad , It looks difficult to take Lenigrad before bad weather . Also after this turn there will be 8 more damn Gars appears on my way to Moscow ! The only hope is that there are no more troops behind Don river , Maybe we can try Stalingrad or Maikop ?


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You should be able to take Stalingrad, but I think that Leningrad will survive, at least during 1941. If Stalingrad falls, the Soviets may have problems with force concentration in the South, because they will no longer have access to many cities or rail depots in the area.

Cybvep wrote:You should be able to take Stalingrad, but I think that Leningrad will survive, at least during 1941. If Stalingrad falls, the Soviets may have problems with force concentration in the South, because they will no longer have access to many cities or rail depots in the area.

Yes , I also thought so , but They did make it later in winter .

Aug 21st 1941 fair


We finally arrive Stalingrad & will take it & Rostov next turn . Also we take Kursk & Orel in the central part , we will try to take Tula next turn .