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Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 3:35 pm
by uran21
Messages that communicate changed victory conditions during the course of scenario will be marked with bold sentence bellow the massage itself. Would this be appropriate enough:

Mission objectives have changed!

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:37 pm
by Ballacraine
How about my suggestion at the top of this page?

''Generalleutnant.
The enemy offensive has stalled and they are retreating.'

Keeps it simple and leaves options open to the player.
Unless you wish to overtly encourage the player to go on the offensive? '

That was in answer to your earlier post.

Your latter post.

Yes, I think that would be helpful. :)

Balla. 8)

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:47 pm
by uran21
I didn't like it because it was too general and retreating without further explanation leaves lot of room for misconception. First iteration of this message confused people what the AI is actually giving up from, mission objectives or held objectives. Where is it retreating, off map or somewhere else. I agree current message is not the best one but haven't heard satisfying alternative either. So it occurred to me I maybe didn't explained enough what I am searching for.

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:22 pm
by Ballacraine
Exactly, I am still unsure what your message intends to convey.

If you wish to encourage the player to go on the offensive how about:

'Generalleutnant.
Gather your forces for a counter offensive.
The enemy attack has stalled and they are retreating.'

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:24 pm
by ThvN
uran21 wrote:I agree current message is not the best one but haven't heard satisfying alternative either. So it occurred to me I maybe didn't explained enough what I am searching for.
Perhaps something like:"Generalleutnant, the enemy has abandoned his offensive, they are no longer trying to reach some of their objectives. They must have overextendend themselves and are trying to regroup. Attack them before they have the chance to strenghten their defensive positions!
uran21 wrote:Messages that communicate changed victory conditions during the course of scenario will be marked with bold sentence bellow the massage itself. Would this be appropriate enough:

Mission objectives have changed!
Maybe keep with the same use of words in the turn splash screen, to prevent confusion:

Victory conditions have changed!

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 5:33 pm
by Ballacraine
ThvN wrote:
uran21 wrote:I agree current message is not the best one but haven't heard satisfying alternative either. So it occurred to me I maybe didn't explained enough what I am searching for.
Perhaps something like:"Generalleutnant, the enemy has abandoned his offensive, they are no longer trying to reach some of their objectives. They must have overextendend themselves and are trying to regroup. Attack them before they have the chance to strenghten their defensive positions!
uran21 wrote:Messages that communicate changed victory conditions during the course of scenario will be marked with bold sentence bellow the massage itself. Would this be appropriate enough:

Mission objectives have changed!
Maybe keep with the same use of words in the turn splash screen, to prevent confusion:

Victory conditions have changed!

First is very specific, if a little 'wordy'. :)

Prefer the second as was first put forward.

Balla. 8)

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 6:31 pm
by uran21
Brevity message changed to new extremely specific one. Wordy but I guess situation demands it to be this way.

If no grammatical errors, for pointing most important ones, Mission objectives have changed! will be used.

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:02 pm
by ThvN
Ballacraine wrote:First is very specific, if a little 'wordy'. :)

Prefer the second as was first put forward.
uran21 wrote:Brevity message changed to new extremely specific one. Wordy but I guess situation demands it to be this way.

If no grammatical errors, for pointing most important ones, Mission objectives have changed! will be used.
Thanks, and I see no errors in 'Mission objectives have changed', so that's fine. And yes, my proposal is quite wordy. I was a little uncertain about how specific it needed to be. Less wordy variant:

Generalleutnant, the enemy is halting their offensive, they are no longer trying to reach all their objectives. They have overextendend themselves, attack them before they have the chance to regroup!

Re: AK: In game messages - Editing

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 7:48 pm
by Ballacraine
An excellent suggestion!

I like that! :D

Balla. 8)