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Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 9:26 am
by peterrjohnston
hammy wrote: Seeding is done using the BHGS rankings amended by incorporation of overseas players as the organisers feel is reasonable. Sean, Matt and Olivier will all be seeded that is a certainty. The only 'benefit' of seeding is that the seeds do not normally play other seeds in game one.
Given it's the "Worlds", would it not be making more sense to use the rankings from the ELO-rankings site? Whatever people's views on ELO, at least it's calculated neutrally and "opinion" free.

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 11:55 am
by hammy
peterrjohnston wrote:
hammy wrote: Seeding is done using the BHGS rankings amended by incorporation of overseas players as the organisers feel is reasonable. Sean, Matt and Olivier will all be seeded that is a certainty. The only 'benefit' of seeding is that the seeds do not normally play other seeds in game one.
Given it's the "Worlds", would it not be making more sense to use the rankings from the ELO-rankings site? Whatever people's views on ELO, at least it's calculated neutrally and "opinion" free.
I will use the ELO for overseas players but while the ELO is highly laudable it does not really penalise players who have not played for donkeys years in terms of their rankings. For example I am very out of practice and have not played many comps this year, as a result I am low in the UK rankings and IMO I should be. If I was playing I would not expect to be seeded just because I was good a year or so ago.

To be honest there are not many people in the same boat as me and I suspect there will be a high degree of correlation between seeding from the BHGS and the ELO systems anyway.

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 6:50 pm
by AlanCutner
Agree with you Hammy. A few years ago I'd expect to be seeded. But I don't compete in England much anymore - pretty much just Britcon. And the Scottish tournaments don't usually count in the rankings. So I'm proud to be unseeded, but hopefully a nasty surprise! ......no nasty comments now.......

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:04 pm
by timmy1
Alan, if you can get the Scotch comp organisers to send Dave and I the results (FoG:AM and R respectively) we will gladly include them...

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:32 pm
by hazelbark
hammy wrote:Seeding is done using the BHGS rankings amended by incorporation of overseas players as the organisers feel is reasonable. Sean, Matt and Olivier will all be seeded that is a certainty. The only 'benefit' of seeding is that the seeds do not normally play other seeds in game one.
Ahh thhe BHGS for bunny bashing in round 1.

And we all know ACCELERATED PAIRINGS are better. :lol:

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon May 14, 2012 8:44 pm
by timmy1
Don't start Dan else you will get put in the DBMM competition...

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:00 pm
by titanu
timmy1 wrote:Don't start Dan else you will get put in the DBMM competition...
Punishment indeed!

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:01 pm
by titanu
hazelbark wrote:And we all know ACCELERATED PAIRINGS are better. :lol:
Is that like Ruddock and the Lady Boys?

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:12 am
by MatteoPasi
Flight booked, I'll be there :)

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:29 am
by titanu
MatteoPasi wrote:Flight booked, I'll be there :)
Is it the gaming or the LadyBoys that interests you?

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:47 pm
by MatteoPasi
Both: last time Ruddock and me played toghether offered me a beer and I still have to pay next one

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 1:51 pm
by titanu
MatteoPasi wrote:Both: last time Ruddock and me played toghether offered me a beer and I still have to pay next one
Ruddock offered you a beer !!!!!!

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:37 pm
by MatteoPasi
Yes but at His justification in Athens there was 32° :)

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:42 am
by AlanCutner
I have just paid for entry to the FoG-AM early period. David will be coming to play as a junior in the FoG-AM Medieval period, so no payment made. Posting that information here because despite several previous emails I am getting no acknowledgments from BHGS.

BHGS: please note I'm no longer entering as a floater seeing as no-one could be bothered to reply to me.

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 12:12 pm
by titanu
AlanCutner wrote:BHGS: please note I'm no longer entering as a floater seeing as no-one could be bothered to reply to me.
Alan do not worry to may you will always be a floater!!

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:14 am
by hammy
Britcon and the Worlds 2012 - update

Places are filling up fast and having checked the entries so far there are a number of regular entrants and long distance travellers who have not yet entered. Unlike at previous Britcons the number of places is finite, when they are gone they are gone. The last thing we want to do is to have to turn away players who have been regulars or who have traveled a long way so please if you have booked travel and or accommodation already get your entries in as soon as possible.

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:08 am
by AlanCutner
Hammy, can we get some confirmation/acknowledgment on entries? In my case I've paid entry so I have a record of application for entry - but I assume thats no guarantee of a place (from your posting). But I have absolutely nothing to confirm Davids entry as he's a junior and no payment made.

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 6:36 pm
by hammy
AlanCutner wrote:Hammy, can we get some confirmation/acknowledgment on entries? In my case I've paid entry so I have a record of application for entry - but I assume thats no guarantee of a place (from your posting). But I have absolutely nothing to confirm Davids entry as he's a junior and no payment made.
Alan, the fact you have paid is a guarantee of a place. We are not full yet. There are a number of regular entrants who have not yet entered and the message was trying to be a gentle reminder that if people want to be sure of places that they really should enter and not assume that we will somehow know that person X or Y is entering through our psychic powers.

There has been no process for confirmation of entries prior to the posting of runners and riders in the past. I suppose we could do it but it would be a lot of work. If for example I send e-mails to the addresses provided with the bookings I suspect that a percentage of them at least will not get replies so I would then have to further chase to confirm.

As for David's entry you should get something shortly regarding that. Unfortunately the people running Britcon in the main have real lives and real jobs to do and the last month or so has been particularly hectic.

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:55 am
by jdm
Hammy for the record, all entrants were sent a personal e mail confirming entry for all previous Britcons
Regards
JDM

Re: Britcon and Worlds 2012

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:06 pm
by hammy
jdm wrote:Hammy for the record, all entrants were sent a personal e mail confirming entry for all previous Britcons
Regards
JDM
Looks like I have a lot of e-mails to send then.

That is not the case for other events such as the Challenge or Roll Call at least I have not had such e-mails in the recent past. It could well be because I am normally umpiring though.