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Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2026 10:14 pm
by kronenblatt
Yes, we take the bait and advance into that hex.
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Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2026 10:15 pm
by kronenblatt
Over to the Romans for your Operation #4.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2026 11:32 pm
by ilpars
Roman 4th Op: Faction diplomacy
Both armies reinforced.
Faction Diplomacy to Gaul. Rolled 5 . No effect.

Over to Etruscan 4th Op.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 8:21 am
by kronenblatt
ilpars wrote: Tue Apr 14, 2026 11:32 pm Roman 4th Op: Faction diplomacy
Faction Diplomacy to Gaul. Rolled 5 . No effect.
First, Etruscan Army II gets to decide whether to attack Roman Army I. Which we do, i.e., we attack!

Does Roman Army I stand and fight or retreat further?

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:13 am
by ilpars
You already attacked and I retreated.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:25 am
by ilpars
Operation #3 - Year One

Army Operation

First Etruscan Army make a siege attempt on Clusium :
- roll 6
- wait and see !

Second Etruscan Army attacks the First Roman Army.
If I am not missing something: Battles are declared after moves and an army can declare battle only once in an operation.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:42 am
by kronenblatt
ilpars wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:13 am You already attacked and I retreated.
In the Etruscan Operation #3.
ilpars wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 9:25 am
Operation #3 - Year One

Army Operation

First Etruscan Army make a siege attempt on Clusium :
- roll 6
- wait and see !

Second Etruscan Army attacks the First Roman Army.
If I am not missing something: Battles are declared after moves and an army can declare battle only once in an operation.
Correct. And now it's the Roman Operation #4 (a separate Operation) and you've made your Operation (which was Faction Diplomacy):

... Armies that at the end of the other Major Faction’s Operation is located within the ZoC of one or several Hostile Armies go first in deciding whether to attack...


So we decide to attack in your Operation (i.e., the other Major Faction's Operation).

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:14 am
by ilpars
Ok I think I get it.
We have done our operation actions: Reinforce and diplomacy.
At the end of our operation you attacked.
If I am reinforced to weakened I accept battle.
We are both weakened this is their first battle in this operation. Both armies have 1500 pts, right?

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:18 am
by kronenblatt
ilpars wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:14 am Ok I think I get it.
We have done our operation actions: Reinforce and diplomacy.
At the end of our operation you attacked.
If I am reinforced to weakened I accept battle.
We are both weakened this is their first battle in this operation. Both armies have 1500 pts, right?
Your army is not yet reinforced to Weakened , because:

An Army that throughout one of its Major Faction’s Operations remains in the hex of a Friendly City without moving, sieging,
and fighting battles will at the end of that Operation increase its Status 1 level, up to but not
exceeding Strong.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:23 am
by ilpars
Roman 1st army retreat South. Rolled 7. No effect.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:30 am
by ilpars
I forgot -2 and almost died. :)
Do you advance?

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:53 am
by kronenblatt
ilpars wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 10:30 am I forgot -2 and almost died. :)
Do you advance?
Yes, we do.

So now it’s Etruscan Operation #4.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:48 pm
by ilpars
Rerad the relevant rule again.
The Status of an army affects its number of Force Points (FP) in battle as well as modifiers to die rolls in Movements and Sieges
I think I was wrong to assume that retreat rules get negative modifier from the status of army.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:19 pm
by kronenblatt
ilpars wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:48 pm Rerad the relevant rule again.
The Status of an army affects its number of Force Points (FP) in battle as well as modifiers to die rolls in Movements and Sieges
I think I was wrong to assume that retreat rules get negative modifier from the status of army.
Only modifiers that apply to retreat are
  • Retreat before battle: +1
  • Draw in battle: +1

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2026 4:21 pm
by kronenblatt
Waiting for Rockmanbob123 to post Etruscan Operation #4 and results from die rolls.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Thu Apr 16, 2026 10:17 pm
by kronenblatt
ilpars wrote: Wed Apr 15, 2026 3:48 pm
But you Romans can proceed with your Operation #5.

The Etruscans chose Army as Operation #4, sieging with both Armies but without any success.

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2026 4:55 am
by kronenblatt
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Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2026 3:53 pm
by rockmanbob123
sorry for the delay

Etruscan army I rolled a 9 on a d10 -2 for large city -1for army status and +1 for siege legnth no effect
Etruscan army II rolled a 1 no effect

Die rolls are logged on the dice site

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2026 4:57 pm
by DIVM
Roman Army II

Moves South from Volsinii: dice roll 7 +2 -> moves and allowed to keep moving (hills + friendly road)
Moves SW: dice roll 2 -> moves and ends his movement for this operation (hills)


Over to Roman Army I

Re: Vae Victis - Romans vs. Etruscans: Ongoing

Posted: Sat Apr 18, 2026 6:08 am
by ilpars
Rome 1st Army moves to Caere rolled 8-2=6 success.
Stay there.

Over to Etruscan side for 5th OP.