Slitherine

wzfcns wrote: ↑Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:00 pm that is the final Situation of w2512494748 Score 3-0

This shouldn't be the final score, in reality though. We had several days to finish, along with an extension given to us until Sunday, which was plenty of time to finish. I hadn't heard anything since I sent the game back January 9th. The game was totally up in the air still. I also messaged my opponent about finding a time and knocking off the rest of the game, but there was no answer.

Aetius

Hi all, the game between deeter and GDC is decisive in order to declare the winner of the 3/4 playoff challenge, both players have the possibility to finish the game, the deadline is extended until Sunday evening at 24.00 GMT + 1 time.

We can't accept anymore slow playing, we expect the game will finish in time.

Another important point, the game between Aeitus39 and w2512494748 is considered a draw, 0-0, percentage of casualties 0%-0%, this for very limited played turns.


Please guys we count of your sportsmanship and fair play.

Ciao
XLegione

continue the game in fair is not possible now.

because i have done no action in the last turn, but get a picture. i thought the game have ended so i hit the end button with no action.

If you had ended your turn (with or without action) I would have received it, but I haven't. So you should still be able to take your move. If you took a screen shot, please post it. I am anxious to continue the game.

Deeter

GCD deeter VP
-12.27 set
12.28 T1 agree
12.29 T2 T1
12.30 waiting delay
12.31 T3 T2
1.1 T4 T3
1.2 T5 T4
1.3 T6 T5 2-0
1.4 T7 T6 13-0
1.5 T8 T7
1.6 waiting delay
1.7 T9 T8 16-0
1.8 delay T9
1.9 T10 waiting 22-4
1.10 delay T10
1.11
(end)
1.14 T11 T11 22-10
(no action) (not seen) (in my no-move turn)
1.15 post here and claim GCD(me) have not ended the without action turn , and he haven't received it. Although he have played the without action turn on 1.14.This is a lie.


So, dear deeter, why did you lie to everyone here ? Anyone who played FOG can distinguish a without action turn, unless he is blind. Why did you said you have not received it, although you have played it ?

Dear spectators and organizers, what is the kind of the mistake to lie to everyone , including the organizers ? Who can tell me ?

Please deeter, we need to have detailed information also from your side.

Many thanks

Ciao
XLegione

GCD wrote: ↑Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:01 pm Although he have played the without action turn on 1.14.This is a lie.

So, dear deeter, why did you lie to everyone here ? Anyone who played FOG can distinguish a without action turn, unless he is blind. Why did you said you have not received it, although you have played it ?

Dear spectators and organizers, what is the kind of the mistake to lie to everyone , including the organizers ? Who can tell me ?

This is getting unpleasant. Please remain civilised. Goes for everyone. After all, it’s just a computer game.

These types of arbitration and adjudication discussions should be conducted by way of PM, not like this in a forum thread.

Just wow! I have been called many things in my life, but never a liar. This has become distasteful and degrading. Maybe something is getting lost in translation here, but I'm having a hard time making sense of this. Still, when you wrestle with pigs you get dirty, so this will be my final public comment:

I never received GCD's last move. If he has ended participation, then the game is forfeit.
His screenshots show that he still has access to the game, so he should be able to continue.

I agree with Kronnenblatt that a public forum is not the place to discuss this. I will be happy to respond to PMs. It is only a game.

Deeter

Dear players, we are going to launch the second edition of WTC, before starting with the recruitment it is essential to know your opinion regarding the formula of the tournament.
The poll you find below will decide it.

i have voted 1 , but i want to explain , for me wtc should be a championship between countries.
At first before excluding russia , maybe we should try to know if there will be a russian team , do they want to play in the next wtc ?
For me russian players should not be banned , they are not responsible of their politic leader.
Why like in sport , they could not play under an other banner ? just calling their team with an other name, for example

random27 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:09 pm i have voted 1 , but i want to explain , for me wtc should be a championship between countries.
At first before excluding russia , maybe we should try to know if there will be a russian team , do they want to play in the next wtc ?
For me russian players should not be banned , they are not responsible of their politic leader.
Why like in sport , they could not play under an other banner ? just calling their team with an other name, for example

It is important to establish the "rules" before to start the recruitment, not after. Many sport federations considered the war a good reason to exclude the Russian athletes to the competition. In our case it is right to share the decision between all the players, the community will decide the way.

Ciao
XLegione

XLegione wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:42 pm

random27 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 3:09 pm i have voted 1 , but i want to explain , for me wtc should be a championship between countries.
At first before excluding russia , maybe we should try to know if there will be a russian team , do they want to play in the next wtc ?
For me russian players should not be banned , they are not responsible of their politic leader.
Why like in sport , they could not play under an other banner ? just calling their team with an other name, for example

It is important to establish the "rules" before to start the recruitment, not after. Many sport federations considered the war a good reason to exclude the Russian athletes to the competition. In our case it is right to share the decision between all the players, the community will decide the way.

Ciao
XLegione

So option 1 involves the use of national/regional teams, but excluding Russian players from the WTC?

If that’s the case, then there should be an option 3: the use of national/regional teams, available to all players (independent of their nationality).

This said, I don’t think national teams is a good idea at all, since it just divides and not unites, with political and linguistic barriers.

And because of that, I believe that the WTC doesn’t fulfil any purpose at all: better just let players play each other and team up, independent of their nationality. Will be better for a global friendship and community.

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:31 pm
...And because of that, I believe that the WTC doesn’t fulfil any purpose at all: better just let players play each other and team up, independent of their nationality. Will be better for a global friendship and community.

Especially if players could give their teams names like "Average Joe's" or "Purple Cobras" or "Team Blitzkrieg"...

this is truly shocking, thought this organization was a truly international grouping, without involving politics

for this vote to even be proposed is not fair please think about it

next you going to exclude Indian and Chinese including HK because those countries have not joined the Western alliance ?

or Hungarians or ??

you should really reconsider this as a gesture , in the interest to NOT CAUSING further world wide friction , bad feelings.....

suggest you go read Huntington, Clash of Civilizations, for some perspective....and entire section, written in 1992, about the Ukraine as a fault line beween West and Slavs/orthodox

come on guys, lets go beyond, seriously, in interest , truly , of world peace

I don't think anyway is wanting to ban players because they are from countries that are not "in the western alliance". There are widespread sanctions against the state of Russia, but (beyond a few billionaires) individual Russians are not sanctioned. It is appropriate and reasonable to consider this response.

heidipie wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:23 am this is truly shocking, thought this organization was a truly international grouping, without involving politics

for this vote to even be proposed is not fair please think about it

next you going to exclude Indian and Chinese including HK because those countries have not joined the Western alliance ?

or Hungarians or ??

you should really reconsider this as a gesture , in the interest to NOT CAUSING further world wide friction , bad feelings.....

suggest you go read Huntington, Clash of Civilizations, for some perspective....and entire section, written in 1992, about the Ukraine as a fault line beween West and Slavs/orthodox

come on guys, lets go beyond, seriously, in interest , truly , of world peace

Ciao heidipie, I appreciated your comments, I'm a very inclusive person, really inspired by the principles of democracy, freedom and equality between people. For my point of view it is a question of respect, sensibility and world peace as you wrote. I can't avoid to see what is happening in the east part of Europe and it is right to know what the people think about it. The proposal is not indecent and for me don't cause any further friction, rather puts in evidence the opinion of the community.

Ciao
XLegione

Hi. I'm from Russia. I was shure that this community is out of politics, but looks I was wrong.

I think that war is bad anyway. I don't see any different between rus - uk war, Armenia - Azerbaijan, war in Syria (x legion, maybe we should banned all countries that includ in this wars? Or it's looks like hypocrisy).

Well I'm so confused of this topic that I can't find words. Only some obvious thinks like wars got economic reasons and it's interesting only for nationals elites. Or that not every Russian/Ukrainian/Italian are bad or good.

I think that this community of equal people. And if someone got more or lowest rights than somebody else I don't want be part of this.

Xlegion you should be shamed for this topic.

El_Tomato wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 7:24 pm Hi. I'm from Russia. I was shure that this community is out of politics, but looks I was wrong.

I think that war is bad anyway. I don't see any different between rus - uk war, Armenia - Azerbaijan, war in Syria (x legion, maybe we should banned all countries that includ in this wars? Or it's looks like hypocrisy).

Well I'm so confused of this topic that I can't find words. Only some obvious thinks like wars got economic reasons and it's interesting only for nationals elites. Or that not every Russian/Ukrainian/Italian are bad or good.

If you live in Russia you probably don't know how nasty Russian soldiers behave. Just google Bucha (Буча). See the ruins of Mariupol, destroyed Kharkiv and other cities. Attack on Krematorsk train station full of families with children with cluster bombs with a sign "for children" on one of bomb. Mass robberies. Kidnapping of relatives of Ukrainian soldiers to force them to stop fighting. Scaring the whole of Europe with a nuclear bomb.
And the Russians don't protest, many don't know, many don't give a damn but many also support it. They will not overthrow Putler's regime until they feel totally isolated and that their economy is collapsing.
This is not like the war in Azerbaijan or the wars waged by the West in general. Stop watching Russian TV.

I have one more solution to consider:
Let the Russians start (especially since some of them are emigrants or against the war) but let the team name be: "We are sorry for the war in Ukraine" or "Glory to Ukraine, fame to heroes"

I'm Italian and I'm relatively new to this game and to the war-gaming world in general. I've started to play PvP since just 2 months. I'm currently playing the Slitherine tournaments with mixed result and I think that my level is far from being sufficient to play the WTC and so it is also my spare time. But during this 2 months I've noticed that the players community is composed by very polite and friendly people. Field of Glory 2 seems like a game played mostly by "gentlemen".

That said, I must admit that reading this poll make me very sad: excluding a nation because of the actions of its government is counterproductive imho. I think that a game, especially a game that is "full of history", should not exclude any nation. The history of many nations in the world is full of atrocity, war and prevarication. In the name of a "question of respect", should we start to exclude every nations that caused atrocity and war crimes in past and present history? If we do so, which nations will remain? XLegione, we are both Italian: should we exclude our country because of what our country has done in Greece, Somalia, Eritrea and Libya?

No one of us can be indifferent about the suffering that the Ukrainian people are living right now, this is clear. But the Russian government is something different from Russian people, culture and nation.

I think that, in our own small way, we should demonstrate that we are able to respect and accept each other and our respective nations way more that our governments do because they are blinded by political and economical interests.