Slitherine

I have never started 45. Not even sure i finished 44.

And i had a DV in Moscow. I just finished demyansk pocket, my 3A se panzer got another 2A hero. He will become a panzer N.

goose_2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:09 pm So he is now playing blind on Ultimate difficulty.

Crazy

Ursulet wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 4:33 pm I have never started 45. Not even sure i finished 44.

And i had a DV in Moscow. I just finished demyansk pocket, my 3A se panzer got another 2A hero. He will become a panzer N.

I am curious, why are you thinking a Pz3N, rather than a Pz3L? I always find the thinking behind the choice you are forced to make with the Pz3, as if you transfer to a Pz3L you are using it more as a tank killer, but if you use a Pz3N you see it as a Infantry killer.

Can you provide your insight on what you are thinking with your upgrade?

goose_2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:11 pm as if you transfer to a Pz3L you are using it more as a tank killer, but if you use a Pz3N you see it as a Infantry killer.

yes

I like them, a 12 strength Pz N with 4* and +5A is a jack of all trades that can help me get rid of those nasty smg and conscripts and yet could dent any soviet armor untill he meets a KV85 or a IS1. And If he had had a 5D hero, i would have still made it a Pz N.

Ursulet wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:03 pm I like them, a 12 strength Pz N with 4* and +5A is a jack of all trades that can help me get rid of those nasty smg and conscripts and yet could dent any soviet armor untill he meets a KV85 or a IS1. And If he had had a 5D hero, i would have still made it a Pz N.

Interesting...

I have always found it extremely interesting that as soon as the Pz4F-2 comes out the role's of Pz3's and 4's switch.

Up until the Pz4F-2 the primary role of the Pz4 is as a soft boy killer. But once the Pz4F-2 comes out they become an everything killer. The Pz3H-F are your real tank killer, until the Pz4F-2 comes out and then BOOM they become mainly a soft boy killer, as they just don't have the same kick anymore...it seems to me at least.

goose_2 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:16 pm

Ursulet wrote: ↑Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:03 pm I like them, a 12 strength Pz N with 4* and +5A is a jack of all trades that can help me get rid of those nasty smg and conscripts and yet could dent any soviet armor untill he meets a KV85 or a IS1. And If he had had a 5D hero, i would have still made it a Pz N.

Interesting...

I have always found it extremely interesting that as soon as the Pz4F-2 comes out the role's of Pz3's and 4's switch.

Up until the Pz4F-2 the primary role of the Pz4 is as a soft boy killer. But once the Pz4F-2 comes out they become an everything killer. The Pz3H-F are your real tank killer, until the Pz4F-2 comes out and then BOOM they become mainly a soft boy killer, as they just don't have the same kick anymore...it seems to me at least.

I do agree With that role but changing my 4 se pz 3 into pz 4 is too costly. So i will stick with those 5 pz 3 i have.

Absolutely, better to save your money for the much needed transfer over to Tiger's. It just gets a little crazy right at Tatsinskaya and Kotelnikova.

That is why I have started holding 1 core unit and 1 Se unit until the day when you can upgrade to the Tiger, as soon as it becomes available I upgrade 1 core and 1 SE tank to help me finish that mission successfully.

I have got a new SE Pz 4 at Vitebsk. I dont even reload to get it, i dont bother anymore.

I will detail my core before starting GC 42.


Infantery:

1 2* Pz gren (+1 M hero)
1 3* Pz gren (+1 M hero)
1 3* Pz gren (+1 M hero)
1 3* Fallschirjager ( 2D hero)
1 3* FJ (3A hero)
1 3* FJ (3D hero)
1 3* Gebirgsjager ( wirnsberger)
1 3* Geb. (Oleh dir)
1 3* Geb ( 3D hero)
1 2* Bruckenpionier ( 1D hero)
1 3* Cavalry (2 D hero)
1 3* Krad ( 1A hero)

I wish i would have got at least a spotting hero for one Krad but i didnt.

tanks:
1 2* Pz 3j/1 (Rondorf)
1 3* Pz lV F/2 (3A hero + 2D hero)
1 3* Pz lV F/2 (Kerscher)
1 3* Pz lV F/2 (1D hero)
1 2* Pz 2 flam (2D hero)
1 3* KV-B (no hero)
1 SE Pz lV F/2 with no stars and no hero
1 3* SE Pz 3 J/1 (3A hero + 2A hero)
1 2* SE Pz 3 J/1 (2D hero)
1 3* SE Pz 3 J/1 (2D hero)
1 3* SE Pz 3 J/1 (1D hero)

Reco:
1 3* sdkfz 222 (1 spotting hero)
1 3* sdkfz 231 (no hero)

AT:
4 2* stugs III F with no hero

Arty:
1 3* 10.5 cm (1D hero)
1 3* 15 cm (+ range hero)
1 3* 17 cm (3A hero)
1 2* nebelwerfer 15 cm(+move hero)
1 3* nebelwerfer 15 cm (+move hero)
3 3* stugs (no hero yet i always start with them, i luv em with a passion)
1 3* wurfrhamenn (range hero)
1 3* 10,5 cm (2D hero)

AA:
1 3* 88 (with Move hero)
1 3* 88 (with range hero, i ddidnt even remember getting it)
2 2* sdkfz 7/1

Luftwaffe:
Fighters:
1 2* me109 F ( Kittel)
2 3* me109 F ( with 2 D heroes)
1 3* me109 F (Bar)
1 3* me109 F (spotting hero)

1 3* stuka D ( rudel)
1 3* stuka D (3A and 2D heroes)
1 3* BF110 F (Helmut lent)

1 3* Bomber JU88 (+2A hero)
2 3* He111 (no hero)
1 3* Dornier 217E (no hero)

38939 Prestige.

I just finished vitbesk. Otto kittel, is now missing in action. He went for a scouting mission and didnt come back, unfortunately i think we wont hear from him again. Other highlights:
- starting as a green unit in 42 is definitively not easy, my SE Pz 4 got a serious beating, but mind you, even a 3* Pz 3 having rondorf as a hero and backed up by two 13 str stugs B with 3* got a serious beating from two 12 str kv-c, down to 2 strength. A stug B cant suppress those monsters.

A SE Pz With a 2D hero got an initiative hero.
My FJ with a 3A hero got a 3D hero, He is like a second oleh dir, but a flying one
My KV-B got a 1A hero.

So i bought a new fighter to replace otto kittel. Off to karhkov 2. I cant wait to see the AI mass buy KV-C again

Ursulet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:10 pm A stug B cant suppress those monsters.

While still good against infantry, the StuG IIIB is much less useful against armor as the game goes on. I'd still hold on to them for Stalingrad, but you may want to adjust your tactics regarding the Russian tanks.

TSPC37730 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:52 pm

Ursulet wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:10 pm A stug B cant suppress those monsters.

While still good against infantry, the StuG IIIB is much less useful against armor as the game goes on. I'd still hold on to them for Stalingrad, but you may want to adjust your tactics regarding the Russian tanks.

I hope that my 4 strategic bombers will take over in 43.

I completely wiped the map as i managed to block all town early. My new fighter has a warm welcome from russia, 3 fighters picked on him and yet he shot down 8 of them and lost only 3. At zero *.

Kerscher got a +1 initiative hero.
A stug F had a 1Attack hero.

Looks like my luck with Heroes has vanished.

Just finished Simferopol. The 15/17 strength enemy fighters pray on my poor 1* me109G. I could almost use it as a bait

I manage a decisive victory. And wiped the map.

One of my SE tanks got a new hero + initiative so he now has +1D +1 Ini heroes. Not great but thats ok.

I finished sevastopol siege. Got a dv, and no hero but my 3 stugs should soon get heroes, i am hoping for attack heroes. +2 or +3 would be nice. Range heroes are good but i prefer attack heroes on arty.

I also finished voronezh and rudel got a +2D hero. That sucks... i made some huge mistakes on that map, including letting my wurframen unprotected and he got bombed and lost 9 strength.

I also had the worst of luck with heroes. Bar had a +2A hero, which i was very happy with and then on the same turn, rudel had an initiative hero so i reloaded and lost the +2A hero on bar, which i had forgotten. Lol sillly me.

Rudel with +2D hero is not too uncommon I would say...

PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Thu Jun 04, 2020 12:00 pm Rudel with +2D hero is not too uncommon I would say...

I guess that whaever he gets, its fine, fundamentally he is going to remain a beast but i was hoping for more attack so i could later on put him in a focke wulfe. But thats ok.

I kinda have a simple approach towards Heroes : Defense heroes for inf and tanks and fighters are my prefered option. Attack for all arty, AA and anti tanks. But i stick with what i get as long as it is not the following:

Defense initiative 'spotting on AA.
Initiative spotting on artillery.
Movement initiative spotting on bombers.
Movement on other planes.

Those are too useless and i will reload if that happen during my turn. If that happens during the AI turn then so be it, i wont replay a full game for that. i will just disband the unit.

you are just rushing through this campaign...I am still preparing for Demyansk which I do not think I will get to until next weekend...my family and I will be gone this weekend, and with all of the overtime I am putting in and all the other campaigns I am playing just not enough time....

The real question is what 9 units should I take into 1942/43 west on Ultimate?

I was playing a few weeks ago on rommel, and the gap in difficulty between my current set up and rommel isnt significative, even though i feel it in the air.

I finished novoanninsky. One of my stugs got a 2D hero which is ok. My 2D se Pz 3n had a 2A hero. I sould have love the opposite between my stug and my se pz... unfortunate we cant switch heroes.

Ilovlya is one of the maps i fear the most. I will rely on my 4 AT stugs F to make an impact here. Oh boy...