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Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 12:56 am
by CrazyHarborc
For the last 2-3 years GW has been and fans of it have been referring to the "hobby of GW, of WHFB, of 40K, of LoTRs etc. etc". GW does seem to wish to present itself as THE hobby......Wargaming was and still is THE hobby.

That said.....FoG was and is a part of the hobby of wargaming. It's (FoG) not presented as the only choice, nor as a seperate "hobby". Wargaming has been around for a longtime, even as a hobby.

I will be shopping on the net for copies of the latest suppliment. My regular opponents and I will be drooling on our own copies of it......VERY SOON.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 3:19 am
by Benvartok
Aussie was getting them early and us Kiwis were taking advantage (as we often do with our slow witted neighbours :twisted: ).

Instead I am having to order through Amazon, they shipped today by the way.

It is a shame because I would like to support local gaming establishments (apart from casinos) but the wait is to long. Also numerous studies have shown that painting figures is both easier and faster with an actual army list in the house, in fact the figures sometimes paint themselves (or each other) overnight, quite a sight :shock:

Righto,

A Monster is Born

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:15 pm
by philqw78
Got my copy today. Another freak army, IMHO, is born. 10 BG of Armd Off Sp. :shock: 360pts

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:30 pm
by Scrumpy
Which army ?

No sign of the book over here yet, Osprey have not got the copies to our local store yet grrrrrr.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:32 pm
by philqw78
Must be a case of +1 for being English, or at least Anglo-Danish.

Re: A Monster is Born

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:53 pm
by nikgaukroger
philqw78 wrote:Got my copy today. Another freak army, IMHO, is born. 10 BG of Armd Off Sp. :shock: 360pts
They are Average, Undrilled, in BGs of 4-6 and there are limitations of troops you can have with them. I reckon you could get a 20 BG army at 800 points from the list. I'm looking forward to seeing how it does :D

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:05 pm
by philqw78
4xTC
10x4 poor Cv that dismount as HF Av Armd UD OS
1x4 Kn Sup Armd UD L Sw
1x4 LF Av UP UD J LS
1x 6 LF Av UP UD B
1x6 LF Av UP UD Sl
3x10 Hf poor Prot UD Off Sp

17 BG Which should be 800. I would have 2 x 6 of the Cav/HF Fyrd tho for 16 BG.

Oh and the Normans can do the dismounting trick too. But they're more expensive.

Come on Tibet

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:05 pm
by Scrumpy
Still looking forward to seeing the bloody book.

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:12 pm
by nikgaukroger
philqw78 wrote:
Come on Tibet

9 small BGs of bloody tough stuff, 2 TCs and nowt else :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:19 pm
by philqw78
2 Ally TC's and a TC + 9x4 Cats and 5 pts to spare, maybe get me a magic dagger :wink:

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:22 pm
by nikgaukroger
Time to get a new calculator I think Phil :lol:

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:24 pm
by philqw78
Oh bugger, five points too few, I need a magic dagger

36 cats, FC ally TC

720+ 50 + 25. It was in there somewhere :roll:

Re: A Monster is Born

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 8:29 am
by rbodleyscott
nikgaukroger wrote:
philqw78 wrote:Got my copy today. Another freak army, IMHO, is born. 10 BG of Armd Off Sp. :shock: 360pts
They are Average, Undrilled, in BGs of 4-6 and there are limitations of troops you can have with them. I reckon you could get a 20 BG army at 800 points from the list. I'm looking forward to seeing how it does :D
But note that you cannot use this version of the army in a "Wolves from the Sea" theme tournament as it is dated after 1040 AD and hence not permitted in the theme.

And, of course, BG of 4 Undrilled Average HF with OSp are really fast and manoeuvrable, "almost like foot cavalry" (with concrete boots). :wink:

BTW, for those that wonder why the BGs are 4-6, they are dismounted (poor) Cavalry Select Fyrd, permitted only in 1055. Normally the select fyrd are in BGs of 6-8.

Wolves from the Sea

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 12:18 pm
by CLAVDIVS
Hi All, :D :D :D :D :D

Very Good day to you all got my copy today @ 12:15 pm :lol: with in the 3- 5 days from Waterstones

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 2:17 pm
by azrael86
Aside fom the marvellous Earl Ralph (aka Sir Robin I presume), there is also the Norse-Irish, shieldless MI/LMI with 2HCW.....who needs armour!

Typos and Errors

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 7:58 pm
by philqw78
Are we starting on these yet....... Well I am.

I assume the Carolngian Frankish "horse archers" should be a choice between Superior Drilled or Undrilled. Not Quality: Average or Drilled - Training: Undrilled

Drilled Russ LF

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 9:40 pm
by list_lurker
But note that you cannot use this version of the army in a "Wolves from the Sea" theme tournament as it is dated after 1040 AD and hence not permitted in the theme.

And, of course, BG of 4 Undrilled Average HF with OSp are really fast and manoeuvrable, "almost like foot cavalry" (with concrete boots).

BTW, for those that wonder why the BGs are 4-6, they are dismounted (poor) Cavalry Select Fyrd, permitted only in 1055. Normally the select fyrd are in BGs of 6-8.
I'm not complaining (as I have one othese armies!), but I do feel that the Anglo Danish list has been rather generously treated. Leaving the Ralph the Timed option aside (as discussed above). Classing the Select Fyrd as armoured puts them at a distinct advantage against the Viking Freeman - to me doesn't seem quite right. Viking Freeman, Rus Spearmen and Earlier Saxon 'Quality' Fyrd can only manage Protected.


maybe I should rejoice and dust off my Saxons :)

Nice book though - my favourite. The quality of the painted figures is much better in this volume! (although fried egg eye does have its charm :wink: )

Re: Typos and Errors

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:03 pm
by rbodleyscott
philqw78 wrote:Are we starting on these yet....... Well I am.

I assume the Carolngian Frankish "horse archers" should be a choice between Superior Drilled or Undrilled. Not Quality: Average or Drilled - Training: Undrilled

Drilled Russ LF
Yes, that one slipped through. They should be Superior Drilled/Undrilled indeed.

Posted: Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:17 pm
by daleivan
This discussion just increases my anticipation at the arrival of my copy, due shortly :D
I'm definitely looking forward to this book.

Cheers,

Dale

Posted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:31 am
by nikgaukroger
list_lurker wrote:
I'm not complaining (as I have one othese armies!), but I do feel that the Anglo Danish list has been rather generously treated. Leaving the Ralph the Timed option aside (as discussed above). Classing the Select Fyrd as armoured puts them at a distinct advantage against the Viking Freeman - to me doesn't seem quite right. Viking Freeman, Rus Spearmen and Earlier Saxon 'Quality' Fyrd can only manage Protected.

Benefit of being one of the richest kingdoms in Europe at the time I guess - note the equipment requirements.