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Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:25 am
by iprop
Land marine said you needed help... What can I do?

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:29 am
by LandMarine47
Help us configure the map do research on Dieppe and help us form the map! So far it's me GL88's and Morge but what's one more to the party :) Read our past posts to get up to date. Oh and PS to add to the allied armor They Had Humbles and I have a photo detailing the exact landing areas! But my iPad wont let me add photos for some reason it on google images you guys could use it

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:37 am
by iprop
No problem... I have the entire oob for the operation... I only have the game on ipad, so I don't know how much I can help with making the map.

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:41 am
by LandMarine47
Me too just get as much info as you can and tell us what we should do

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 1:46 am
by iprop
Copy... I will get on it tomorrow

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:12 pm
by Old_Warrior
Just seeing this thread - exciting project guys. Go for it!

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 10:02 pm
by LandMarine47
Always looking for more help :) Can't get enough

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 2:53 am
by LandMarine47
So how's it going on your end GL88's? Do you have what you need to make the buildings you need? I say you use the Building format for either Operation SeaLion or Husky and even Market Garden. Still looking how to get those tanks on the beachhead.

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:24 pm
by Amaris
If you need scripts contact me ;-)

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:27 pm
by Ranger
LandMarine47 wrote: British/American
The Brits had a mostly Spec ops load out and even the US 1st Rangers were present during the raid
Brits should have Commandos and Some Rangers must be present
It would be great to have "Commando" units.

The Brit Commandos and U.S. Rangers at Dieppe worked extremely closely together/side-by-side. I believe they (Rangers and Commandos) were practically integrated units at the squad or platoon levels. The Ranger contingent was relatively small.

BTW: the Rangers who worked with the Commandos in the Dieppe Raid wouldn't be equipped like the Rangers in the BA Normandy and Husky scenarios.

I'm about to start reading a book about the Rangers participation at the Dieppe Raid ("Dieppe Rangers" I think it's called).

Anyway, I'll be happy to contribute "Dieppe Raid" specific info about the participating Commando/Ranger units, equipment, weapons and missions etc. No strings attached or expectations about inclusion or use in your project. just there if you want to consider inclusion etc.

Lemme know,

cheers,

Thomas

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:50 pm
by GottaLove88s
Ranger wrote:
LandMarine47 wrote: British/American
The Brits had a mostly Spec ops load out and even the US 1st Rangers were present during the raid
Brits should have Commandos and Some Rangers must be present
It would be great to have "Commando" units.

The Brit Commandos and U.S. Rangers at Dieppe worked extremely closely together/side-by-side. I believe they (Rangers and Commandos) were practically integrated units at the squad or platoon levels. The Ranger contingent was relatively small.

BTW: the Rangers who worked with the Commandos in the Dieppe Raid wouldn't be equipped like the Rangers in the BA Normandy and Husky scenarios.

I'm about to start reading a book about the Rangers participation at the Dieppe Raid ("Dieppe Rangers" I think it's called).

Anyway, I'll be happy to contribute "Dieppe Raid" specific info about the participating Commando/Ranger units, equipment, weapons and missions etc. No strings attached or expectations about inclusion or use in your project. just there if you want to consider inclusion etc.

Lemme know,

cheers,

Thomas
Thanks Thomas. We'll be lucky to have you onboard!

FYI I've just started reading Tragedy at Dieppe: Operation Jubilee by a Canadian war historian called Zuilke. I get the impression that US Rangers were formed as a direct result of their involvement at Dieppe... How cool is that? 8)

" A new element Mountbatten introduced was the inclusion of fifty American Rangers. American interest in commando operations had led to the tall Texan, Brig Truscott, and a small team being posted to [Dieppe planning] Combined Operations on May 17, 1942. Nine days later, Truscott suggested the formation of a purely American unit for raiding to the US Chief of Staff Gen George Marshall, calling them Rangers after a band of irregulars who fought during the French-Indian wars. The 1st US Ranger Battalion was activated on June 19, 1942 at Carrickfergus, Ireland. It consisted of 29 officers and 575 men. On July 25th, Truscott ordered 1st Rangers to report to commando HQ in Scotland to begin combined ops training. For 'reasons of politics and prestige' Roosevelt wanted a US 'military contingent' to participate [in Dieppe]. However, the British General Staff argued that 'the few American units in Britain at that time were green troops' [so fifty Rangers were chosen as a compromise]."

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:53 pm
by LandMarine47
All help is wanted and you seem like you could be a major breakthrough here!

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:54 pm
by GottaLove88s
Amaris wrote:If you need scripts contact me ;-)
Monsieur Amaris,

You knoooooooow we're gonna need your skills! Thanks for your kind involvement, absolutely you're BA's generous genius in residence.

:mrgreen:

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:59 pm
by GottaLove88s
LandMarine47 wrote:So how's it going on your end GL88's? Do you have what you need to make the buildings you need? I say you use the Building format for either Operation SeaLion or Husky and even Market Garden. Still looking how to get those tanks on the beachhead.
Thanks LM, Had/have some long/late shifts last weekend/this week, so it's slowing up a little after a mad map rush... Am trying to read up in era, and searching around for photos of Dieppe streets and buildings, to best approximate... Chateau Dieppe is proving harder than anticipated. It's got those rounded towers with conical roofs (not as easy at more Norman style castle in Caen). Am doing best efforts, mixing church styles and desert forts... It will be convincing enough, so long as folks concentrate on battles rather than architecture! :oops:

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:59 pm
by GottaLove88s
Anyone got any creative ideas how to mix BA's various buildings to make a tobacco factory...??
I can't think of any objects that look like a tall chimney pipe?

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:12 pm
by LandMarine47
Hard to do so there isn't any buildings with tall chimneys. But you can use a cluster of Operation Husky Buildings (Houses unfortunately). That's your best bet right now

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:18 pm
by GottaLove88s
LandMarine47 wrote:Hard to do so there isn't any buildings with tall chimneys. But you can use a cluster of Operation Husky Buildings (Houses unfortunately). That's your best bet right now
Yeah, that's pretty much what I did to make warehouses in Caen... they'll have to do... :mrgreen:

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 10:41 pm
by LandMarine47
Can we get a sneak peak on what the map looks like so far :)

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 11:04 pm
by LandMarine47
Moar

Re: Operation Jubilee - Dieppe raid - Pls help!

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 3:45 am
by LandMarine47
More photos