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Re: Mongol and shooting !

Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 5:37 pm
by rbodleyscott
pompeytheflatulent wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 4:15 pm Is it possible from a technical standpoint for the game to automatically generate maps one size larger if one of the sides is a horse-nomad army?
Most things are possible.

Re: Mongol and shooting !

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2021 7:49 am
by SimonLancaster
Current Mongol player stats in DL:

Constantinix, Div A: 1 loss.
ericdoman1, Div B: 5 wins and 2 losses.
Ironclad, Div C: 1 win, 2 draws and 2 losses.
SpeedyCM, Div D: 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss.

At the moment quite evenly spread.

Re: Mongol and shooting !

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:28 am
by SpeedyCM
rbodleyscott wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:15 pm Also the Mongol best-equipped cavalry are certainly under-priced, and the price will increase when the first DLC is released. (Increase is currently being beta-tested).
Really, that's surprising I have found them to be rather mediocre especially when faced with all the knights and sergeants going around.

Re: Mongol and shooting !

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:33 am
by Sabratha
SpeedyCM wrote: Mon Mar 15, 2021 5:28 am
rbodleyscott wrote: Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:15 pm Also the Mongol best-equipped cavalry are certainly under-priced, and the price will increase when the first DLC is released. (Increase is currently being beta-tested).
Really, that's surprising I have found them to be rather mediocre especially when faced with all the knights and sergeants going around.
I think they are fine as they are both capacity-wise and price-wise.

The issue is that "all-shock armies" and "all-mounted archer armies" are very different from one another and it can be quite boring/tedious to play these one against the other. That's not something the game can avoid though, it is a direct result of unhistorical MP pairings. Scottish shiltron armies were not designed to fight Mongol riders and vice versa, thus this sort of unhistorical MP pairing can feel very weird... as it probably would if these armies met in reality.

This was actually one of the reasons why in our mod we created a separate "German Border Marches (Styria&Austria)" armylist, because the armies of these lands were more geared towards fighting the Hungarians with their fighting style.

Re: Mongol and shooting !

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 10:07 am
by gribol
Sabratha wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 9:33 am Scottish shiltron armies were not designed to fight Mongol riders and vice versa, thus this sort of unhistorical MP pairing can feel very weird... as it probably would if these armies met in reality.
I think, that Mongol armies were designed to defeat every single opponent, and they do so.
Schiltron will be just shot to pieces by Mongols.