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Ok, finally one screenshot. I can assign heroes during a map.

This seems as good a place as any to ask a question about enemy special characters. Does DeGaulle come back if I manage to kill him at Sedan? He's been a cast-iron bitch with his Prudent trait (and I am using that setting that gives all enemy units +5 strength). I finally have him cornered on a hill, so I can attack him with an infantry unit and kill him. But I don't want to do that if it will deprive me of the challenge in future missions. I know that killing off whatshernames' brother in SCW meant that he didn't come back...

QSertorius wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:26 pm This seems as good a place as any to ask a question about enemy special characters. Does DeGaulle come back if I manage to kill him at Sedan? He's been a cast-iron bitch with his Prudent trait (and I am using that setting that gives all enemy units +5 strength). I finally have him cornered on a hill, so I can attack him with an infantry unit and kill him. But I don't want to do that if it will deprive me of the challenge in future missions. I know that killing off whatshernames' brother in SCW meant that he didn't come back...

Yes, he will be back, no matter how many times you kill him.

AKMAK74 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 7:20 pm

QSertorius wrote: ↑Tue Jun 13, 2023 6:26 pm This seems as good a place as any to ask a question about enemy special characters. Does DeGaulle come back if I manage to kill him at Sedan? He's been a cast-iron bitch with his Prudent trait (and I am using that setting that gives all enemy units +5 strength). I finally have him cornered on a hill, so I can attack him with an infantry unit and kill him. But I don't want to do that if it will deprive me of the challenge in future missions. I know that killing off whatshernames' brother in SCW meant that he didn't come back...

Yes, he will be back, no matter how many times you kill him.

Excellent. Thanks!

Killing De Gaulle could be a perfect elite objective. I think you can kill him 3-4 times, so if you do that you get some tokens and you can use them to get a speciell hero, or maybe his tank with some speciell traits...plenty of options

DefiantXYX wrote: ↑Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:18 am Killing De Gaulle could be a perfect elite objective. I think you can kill him 3-4 times, so if you do that you get some tokens and you can use them to get a speciell hero, or maybe his tank with some speciell traits...plenty of options

I'd love to see a "battlefield promotion" type hero for an accomplishment like this. As I have said before, I hate special units. I like heroes. I know not everyone feels that way. The best option would be an event that gives you the choice between a hero or a special unit.

Hmm, I'm a bit confused.

I've chosen to go Belgium route in 1940, and picked up Elsa Kloss.

However, it seems I cannot get the infamous Neubelfar tank if I do that. Whereas, I'm pretty sure I managed to pick it up when I went the Holland route before.

Has something changed, or am I missing an objective somewhere? I'm tallying up my commendations and I'm picking up the exact amount as in the guide, which even the guide would be 1 short of getting the Neubelfar tank if taking Elsa (by 1).

Anyone able to clear that up?

All I can say it that is always worked for me.
Are you sure you got all optionals?
Or do you end the scenario too early? The Neubaufahrzeug event triggers in one of the last turns, if you are too fast you wont get it.

I'm doing AO 40 again right now and I got Elsa and the Neubaufahrzug as well in Belgium.

RVallant wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:55 pm Hmm, I'm a bit confused.

I've chosen to go Belgium route in 1940, and picked up Elsa Kloss.

However, it seems I cannot get the infamous Neubelfar tank if I do that. Whereas, I'm pretty sure I managed to pick it up when I went the Holland route before.

Has something changed, or am I missing an objective somewhere? I'm tallying up my commendations and I'm picking up the exact amount as in the guide, which even the guide would be 1 short of getting the Neubelfar tank if taking Elsa (by 1).

Anyone able to clear that up?

You have to wait until you finish that bonus objective, and then the event pops up at the start of the next turn. If you finish the scenario in the same turn, you miss the event.

VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 11:40 pm

RVallant wrote: ↑Sat Jun 24, 2023 5:55 pm Hmm, I'm a bit confused.

I've chosen to go Belgium route in 1940, and picked up Elsa Kloss.

However, it seems I cannot get the infamous Neubelfar tank if I do that. Whereas, I'm pretty sure I managed to pick it up when I went the Holland route before.

Has something changed, or am I missing an objective somewhere? I'm tallying up my commendations and I'm picking up the exact amount as in the guide, which even the guide would be 1 short of getting the Neubelfar tank if taking Elsa (by 1).

Anyone able to clear that up?

You have to wait until you finish that bonus objective, and then the event pops up at the start of the next turn. If you finish the scenario in the same turn, you miss the event.

That was indeed the issue, thank you.

QSertorius wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:29 am I noticed that my new best friend, Elsa Kloss, cannot be put on my beloved armored train. So, I stuck her on my new rocket launchers instead. I think this will end up being an absolutely devastating unit. Five ammo, three range, double attack, rapid fire (has it by default).

That's four heroes in one unit! how?

dukeiii wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:17 pm That's four heroes in one unit! how?

general trait:force concentration

sers,
Thomas

Grondel wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:45 pm

dukeiii wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:17 pm That's four heroes in one unit! how?

general trait:force concentration

sers,
Thomas

Thanks! Just realize there was a scroll bar on the trait selection screen

Has a list been done for 1945 missions yet at all? I've played through some of the alt history campaign and found a few stashes of planes but nothing much else.

yogkangaroo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 06, 2023 2:43 am Has a list been done for 1945 missions yet at all? I've played through some of the alt history campaign and found a few stashes of planes but nothing much else.

Only the campaign tree over here;

https://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=112361

Nothing more yet.

Improvised list here. Scenarios not listed here means there is none.


Ahistorical route has no CP reward, all optional objectives are elite

1. Operation Puma
32 PT-34 in each location (26,15) and (23,31)
67 La-7 and 42 Pe-3 at (3,3)
51 Yak-9D and 51 Pe-3 at (10,30)
45 Yak-9U and 22 Pe-3 at (23,6)
55 Lowe, 19 IS-3 and 19 T-44-100 from elite objective

2. Operation Wagtail
55 Lowe and Otto Carius from elite objective
Otto Carius: Tank/AntiTank Class, Crippling Blow, +2 Speed

3. Operation Barca
52 La-7 and 19 Pe-3 at (25,58)
41 Yak-9D and 27 Pe-3 at (39,2)
39 Yak-9U and 42 Pe-3 at (20,40)

4. Operation Feuerkartoffel
79 Il-2M3 and 95 Il-10 at (36,17)
63 OT-34-85, 44 T-44, 71 IS-3 and 85 SU-100 at (35,19)
Beate Uhse from elite objective
Beate Uhse: Fighter/TacticalBomber Class, Aiming Assistance, Zero Slot, +1 Initiative

5. Zahidan
55 BL 7.2 inch and 61 Land Mattress at (10,18)
68 M7 Priest and 54 Firefly Tulip at (25,3)
999 Lowe from elite objective


There is no effect from all the High Command Objectives, the same as in Minsk Offensive, 1944. You are not supposed to be able to achieve them.

1. Tata
81 Toldi IIa, 76 Tulan II and 49 Zrinyi III at (9,45)
78 Nimrod 40 and 69 Me 210 C at (17,6)

2. Operation Bodenplatte
Each bonus objective gives 2 CP, totally 4

3. Operation Konrad III
33 Lowe at (3,20)
2CP to purchase a large bunch of Reserved Units, all 2500 exp, one from each type: T-34/43, T-34-85, KV-1/42, KV-2, SU-152, Churchill Mk.VI, M4A3, Sherman Crocodile, M10 Wolverine, Sherman Calliope. Use them or disband them for prestige, up to your self.

4. Operation Southwind
1CP to purchase a hero Helga Grese
Helga Grese: AntiTank/AntiAir Class, Skilled Support, Aiming Assistance, Crippling Blow
Bonus objective gives 2 CP

5. Operation Spring Awakening
33 Lowe at (37,24)
2CP to purchase another bunch of reserved units: M3 Lee, M18 Hellcat, M15/42, Char B1, SU-100Y, T-26, T-28, Achilles, Crusader Mk.III, Matilda II

6. Vienna Offensive
50 Lowe at (30,29)
There is no reward for recapturing your HQ, only a dialogue

Going to Berlin is meant to have you killed, buried together with the last struggle of the Reich.
Heading to Salzburg would save you, and let you know the end of Wagner. Note that in this scenario your faction is set to the Condor Legion, which means you would lose access to almost all German equipment.
The choice decides the ending of your campaign.

VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:43 am Beate Uhse from elite objective

Im still amused about that name. Most germans know her name very well, but not because of her participation in WWII. After the war she founded the first "sexshop" in the world, and her company is still out there and operating.

Bee1976 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:51 pm
Im still amused about that name. Most germans know her name very well, but not because of her participation in WWII. After the war she founded the first "sexshop" in the world, and her company is still out there and operating.

Guess they should have given her Shock Tactics.

Bee1976 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 1:51 pm

VirgilInTheSKY wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 3:43 am Beate Uhse from elite objective

Im still amused about that name. Most germans know her name very well, but not because of her participation in WWII. After the war she founded the first "sexshop" in the world, and her company is still out there and operating.

Indeed. More interesting history lessons from a game.