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Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 6:45 pm
by lennis29
Pz.Kpfw. III/IV

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 8:32 pm
by uzbek2012

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Sun May 17, 2020 9:26 pm
by lennis29
Pz.Sfl. IVc

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 2:29 am
by cw58
Is that a "what-if" unit, lennis, or did the Germans actually try that out?

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 3:16 am
by lennis29
cw58 wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 2:29 am Is that a "what-if" unit, lennis, or did the Germans actually try that out?
Greetings friend, I was kind of bored, I entered the world of tanks page and it gave me the desire to create prototypes.

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:39 am
by guille1434
We have to take the stuff published in "World of tanks" web sites with some care, much of the vehicles showed are inaccurate or just inventions that also are, sometimes, physically impossible to have been designed nor much less produced. In fact, the same can be said about some scale model firms. I prefer to stick to historical, and some "what if" units, but the ones which at least existed as prototypes or have had some "paper" evidence (historical documents or photographes, plans, etc...) to back it existence up.

In fact, there was a prototype vehicle for a self-propelled version of the Flak 41 8,8 cm gun, and it was called "Pz. Sfl. IVc" but it did not use the Panzer IV chassis, it used a specially created chassis which used the suspension of one of the heavy half track prime movers used by the Germans, and also probably (I don´t remember well)) components from the Pz IV chassis. The vehicle looked like the images uploaded in this posting...

In conclusion, it is not a bad thing to "create" fictional icons, but it would be good to indicate that they are just fictional units, in order to avoid the prolifertaion of fake historical facts that are already plaguing the internet... This is, of course, just my opinion.

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 6:28 pm
by guille1434
The M4A2 Sherman in Red Army service...

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:27 pm
by Maths
Hello Guille,
Sorry if my question has been already asked and answered plenty of times but did you make some landing craft icons ? I mean flat-bottomed boats used for actual beach assault.
Thank you in advance ! Nice Sherman btw !
Greetings

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 8:31 pm
by Maths
Sorry, forget my question, I found some :mrgreen:

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Mon May 18, 2020 9:25 pm
by uzbek2012
n conclusion, it is not a bad thing to "create" fictional icons, but it would be good to indicate that they are just fictional units, in order to avoid the prolifertaion of fake historical facts that are already plaguing the internet... This is, of course, just my opinion.
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Yes on this I agree with you completely ! The Internet suffers from frames and poor quality work in photoshop )
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And not an experienced history expert sometimes finds it difficult to determine in these fairy tales where reality is, and where outright lies )


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The M4A2 Sherman in Red Army service...
As usual, great !

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:40 am
by guille1434
Now, the long gunned M4A2(76)W in Soviet service, with and without the M2 12,7 mm AA machine gun... 8)

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 3:23 am
by uzbek2012
guille1434 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 1:40 am Now, the long gunned M4A2(76)W in Soviet service, with and without the M2 12,7 mm AA machine gun... 8)

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Ba-64 in German service.
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https://pikabu.ru/story/vse_vidyi_t34_c ... 44_4813032

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 12:13 pm
by Vintage
guille1434 wrote: Sun May 17, 2020 6:13 pm Hello Vintage:

Yes, is always necessary to check the color of new units compared to the already existing ones, to find a close enough match. Fotunately, you (like me) like it more when the units look like the original ones...

In case of the Soviet land units, I found the following parameters in Paint.net, to arrive to the desired tone:

1) Turn image to sepia (as always)...
2) Then apply: Hue +40, Saturation 105, Lightness -35
3) After that, at least in case of the Pz 38 icon, I had to further retouch the tracks and roadwheels, desaturating them a little more, and also darkening them a bit more.

After all that, you may want to highlight some details in different colors. Examples: red oxide for the exhaust muffler, dark sepia for the visible part of the tracks (in general, the upper and lower segments), and any other present (or added) detail you may want to highlight in order to "customize" your model.

I hope you like the result...

Also, as you uploaded a Soviet M4 Sherman, I decided to make improved icons for the Sherman variants received by the Red Army, which were the M4A2 (with short 75 mm gun), and the M4A2(76)W with the longer, harder hitting 76 mm gun. According to wikipedia, the Soviets received a little more than 2000 units of each variant...

Stay tuned, and greetings!!!
Extremely useful instructions and good example unit, muchos gracias!

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Tue May 19, 2020 1:37 pm
by cw58
guille1434 wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:39 am We have to take the stuff published in "World of tanks" web sites with some care, much of the vehicles showed are inaccurate or just inventions that also are, sometimes, physically impossible to have been designed nor much less produced. In fact, the same can be said about some scale model firms. I prefer to stick to historical, and some "what if" units, but the ones which at least existed as prototypes or have had some "paper" evidence (historical documents or photographes, plans, etc...) to back it existence up.

In fact, there was a prototype vehicle for a self-propelled version of the Flak 41 8,8 cm gun, and it was called "Pz. Sfl. IVc" but it did not use the Panzer IV chassis, it used a specially created chassis which used the suspension of one of the heavy half track prime movers used by the Germans, and also probably (I don´t remember well)) components from the Pz IV chassis. The vehicle looked like the images uploaded in this posting...

In conclusion, it is not a bad thing to "create" fictional icons, but it would be good to indicate that they are just fictional units, in order to avoid the prolifertaion of fake historical facts that are already plaguing the internet... This is, of course, just my opinion.
I'm not opposed to fictional units at all; I just like to know it when they are. Many times I've come across vehicles that I thought couldn't possibly be real only to find out that they were real. The Germans especially had quite the imagination, or perhaps it was desperation. :| Anyway, my education continues.....

Thanks for the new icons, Guille. They're going into my library to be used when I get around to it. :)

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 12:46 am
by uzbek2012
cw58 wrote: Tue May 19, 2020 1:37 pm
guille1434 wrote: Mon May 18, 2020 9:39 am We have to take the stuff published in "World of tanks" web sites with some care, much of the vehicles showed are inaccurate or just inventions that also are, sometimes, physically impossible to have been designed nor much less produced. In fact, the same can be said about some scale model firms. I prefer to stick to historical, and some "what if" units, but the ones which at least existed as prototypes or have had some "paper" evidence (historical documents or photographes, plans, etc...) to back it existence up.

In fact, there was a prototype vehicle for a self-propelled version of the Flak 41 8,8 cm gun, and it was called "Pz. Sfl. IVc" but it did not use the Panzer IV chassis, it used a specially created chassis which used the suspension of one of the heavy half track prime movers used by the Germans, and also probably (I don´t remember well)) components from the Pz IV chassis. The vehicle looked like the images uploaded in this posting...

In conclusion, it is not a bad thing to "create" fictional icons, but it would be good to indicate that they are just fictional units, in order to avoid the prolifertaion of fake historical facts that are already plaguing the internet... This is, of course, just my opinion.
I'm not opposed to fictional units at all; I just like to know it when they are. Many times I've come across vehicles that I thought couldn't possibly be real only to find out that they were real. The Germans especially had quite the imagination, or perhaps it was desperation. :| Anyway, my education continues.....

Thanks for the new icons, Guille. They're going into my library to be used when I get around to it. :)
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https://zen.yandex.ru/media/historicalf ... ad5e133c62
https://fishki.net/1479476-podvig-staro ... istov.html
https://topwar.ru/70065-rokovye-shest-d ... ast-2.html
Then tell me if it's true or not ) Is it possible to fire such guns at tanks ? )
In November 1941, on the advice of Kozlovsky, six-inch siege guns of the 1877 model that were stored in the Mytishchi Arsenal (59th Arsenal, former military warehouses "Myza Raevo") were disbanded. Native shells for these guns were not preserved, but due to unification, it was possible to use British captured six-inch (152.4 mm) shells, which remained in significant numbers after the Anglo-American intervention in Murmansk in 1919. The creation of two batteries of such guns in tank-dangerous areas on the Solnechnogorsk—Krasnaya Polyana section allowed Rokossovsky's 16th army to stop German tanks breaking through to Moscow.

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 6:26 am
by captainjack
A 6" HE shell would make a big mess of most 1941 German tanks even with a near miss.
If you dug a pit for it so that just the barrel was visible, added some camouflage and sited it somewhere with a good field of fire it could cause a fair bit of trouble if well supported by infantry. At the very least it would be better than a molotov cocktail and a bundle of grenades.

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Wed May 20, 2020 12:30 pm
by guille1434
About the ancient artillery pieces used as AT guns, I think the problem would be the lack of traverse to accurately aim those guns to such mobile targets as tanks would be... In consequence, notwithstanding the fact that those guns could fire powerful shells, I think that they would only hit a tank (or achieve a near miss) only by a slim chance.

Captain: Answering to your request for Australian Infantry units, here is a rather comprehensive Australian Infantry types unit pack, with units which seems to be rather historical, except for the Australian SAS unit, which in fact was formed in 1957...

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 5:32 am
by uzbek2012

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 9:54 am
by captainjack
Thanks for the Australian infantry pack. These are very good. The enginners and maybe a few others will be heading into my British North African mod when I've finished rationalising my equipment files and icons.
The one improvement - for Pacific theatre only - would be to replace the sten with an Owen. Sure it looks like a piece of scrap pipework with a magazine stuck on top but it worked whatever you did to it and was about as Australian as the hat.

Re: Guille's PzCorps Support Base - Multipurpose Icons and more.

Posted: Thu May 21, 2020 3:19 pm
by guille1434
Hello Captain, here is an update pack of Aussie infantry units, with their distinctive Owen SMG, I also added a 81 mm Mortar... Enjoy!