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Re: POTZBLITZ V4.76 (beta), JUL 6th 08:25 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:20 pm
by Robotron
nehi wrote:most likely
*sigh* would it be too much to ask to check this before complaining? I've just re-checked all incidents where Italy could gain collapse points and found none.
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.76 (beta), JUL 6th 08:25 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:22 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:nehi wrote:most likely
*sigh* would it be too much to ask to check this?
how can i check retrospectively in which version it started? what about if it ended in different?
bringing italy in war takes hours, maybe its not even sure it happens, can i ask for any magic button?
i saw italy got collapse point almost constantly, no matter what happened, last time 14 in like no time
btw. nice counter to ruprecht sitzkrieg would be to influence belgium, buts impossible
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.76 (beta), JUL 6th 08:25 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:35 pm
by Robotron
nehi wrote:how can i check retrospectively in which version it started? what about if it ended in different?
If you can't prove stuff is not working right then don't act as if stuff is not working right.
And yes: influencing Belgium would have been nice, eh? You can go for "Demand right of passage", but it's a very slim chance.
New Rupprecht setup:

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Re: POTZBLITZ V4.76 (beta), JUL 6th 08:25 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:55 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:
And yes: influencing Belgium would have been nice, eh? You can go for "Demand right of passage", but it's a very slim chance.
as entente? i saw it when i was cp
belgium is 77/100 all the time, not moving towards entente, even its says it has chosen alliance
Robotron wrote:
If you can't prove stuff is not working right then don't act as if stuff is not working right.
ok, everything works great (it was at least 4.75)
new setup, all that magic of hitting with all force that exposed french infantry is gone
now it will take years to cross the alps, what about german infantry startin just nearby bern, so it could cut off railway at least?
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 4:46 pm
by Robotron
And once again the latest Scriptfix:
V4.77
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0N7V ... mJsOFpqSG8
- new war plan Rupprecht (secondary German objective is now Verdun)
- several bugfixes
- hunt for the mysterious replay-crash bug continues
As always, it would probably be best to start a new game after applying the fix, continue old games at own risk.
If you'd like to see Stuka-style-fighters reintroduced again, just buy me a Slitherene Games gift coupon.

Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:01 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:
If you'd like to see Stuka-style-fighters reintroduced again, just buy me a Slitherene Games gift coupon.

vanilla would greatly help just no upkeep for small garrisons and reduce production for same amount as number of small garrisons
else its quite well balanced, as its very simplified version with much less factors than potzblitz
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:16 pm
by Robotron
nehi wrote:Robotron wrote:
If you'd like to see Stuka-style-fighters reintroduced again, just buy me a Slitherene Games gift coupon.

vanilla would greatly help just no upkeep for small garrisons and reduce production for same amount as number of small garrisons
else its quite well balanced, as its very simplified version with much less factors than potzblitz
Yeah, and it was totally broken in about just all other aspects.
People moaned about it in the forums for years, just read old posts from before 2016!
Just a few power gamers stuck to the game after everybody else left the game in total disgust, especially if they met those power gamers in MP.
Take a look at the AAR by Operating at Matrix forums and the total unrealistic use of hordes of fighter, bombers and zeps.
Should I repost some of your screenshots with dozens of zeps?
Sorry to be so blunt, but I think that power gamers like you ruined the game for a lot of people who'd like to play MP but were disgusted by the total exploitation of air force.
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:23 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:
Yeah, and it was totally broken in about just all other aspects.
People moaned about it in the forums for years, just read old posts from before 2016!
Just a few power gamers stuck to the game after everybody else left the game in total disgust, especially if they met those power gamers in MP.
Take a look at the AAR by Operating at Matrix forums and the total unrealistic use of hordes of fighter, bombers and zeps.
Should I repost some of your screenshots with dozens of zeps?
Sorry to be so blunt, but I think that power gamers like you ruined the game for a lot of people who'd like to play MP but were disgusted by the total exploitation of air force.
such people are disgusted by anything, until ive figured it out, ive tried to accept their own rules many times, but they usually left the game as soon or even sooner than without their rules
i would bet, same people were crying about units for free
u should listen to me, when for example russia got +50 prudction pointes every turn, thats broken
if u dont have too much production points, u cant spam aircrafts
fighters are just toys for children in compare to zeps/blimps
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 5:55 pm
by Robotron
nehi wrote:fighters are just toys for children in compare to zeps/blimps
Good thing I put the nerfstick on both.
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:09 pm
by nehi
but im afraid supply crisis is too deadly
how long it lasts? vs ai even i catched polivanov, was ai able to anihilate like half of russian units (almost any except armies, which can be encircled as they cant move sometimes)
i can just guess how tough it will be vs human
is there any way to counter it as typhus at balkan?
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:52 pm
by Robotron
nehi wrote:is there any way to counter it as typhus at balkan?
Yes.
Stockpile Russian ammo.
Try not to lose Warsaw or any other Russian cities.
Take Austrian cities.
Choose "Full Russian mobilization" if possible.
Be conservative with your attacks.
Do NOT attack during winter.
Do NOT spend all PP if possible.
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:58 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:nehi wrote:is there any way to counter it as typhus at balkan?
Yes.
Stockpile Russian ammo.
Try not to lose Warsaw or any other Russian cities.
Take Austrian cities.
Choose "Full Russian mobilization" if possible.
Be conservative with your attacks.
Do NOT attack during winter.
Do NOT spend all PP if possible.
ok, but i had then production like -40 and units just to form a single line of defense, savings where out in like 2 turns
so how long it lasts?
what means stockpile ammo? 10, 20, 99? it weaken crisis then?
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:15 pm
by Robotron
Every ammo point left at the end of a game turn will lower the chance for the crisis to break out by 2%.
Every point of PP left at the end of a game turn will lower the chance by 1%.
The crisis will last up to 5 turns, longer if "Russian Surprise Attack" has happened.
It cannot end in winter.
It can be ended earlier if you play "Polivanov" event, in this case even in winter.
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:19 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:Every ammo point left at the end of a game turn will lower the chance for the crisis to break out by 2%.
Every point of PP left at the end of a game turn will lower the chance by 1%.
The crisis will last up to 5 turns, longer if "Russian Surprise Attack" has happened.
It cannot end in winter.
It can be ended earlier if you play "Polivanov" event, in this case even in winter.
50 ammo = no crisis?
conquered austrian cities help how?
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:29 pm
by Robotron
nehi wrote:Robotron wrote:Every ammo point left at the end of a game turn will lower the chance for the crisis to break out by 2%.
Every point of PP left at the end of a game turn will lower the chance by 1%.
The crisis will last up to 5 turns, longer if "Russian Surprise Attack" has happened.
It cannot end in winter.
It can be ended earlier if you play "Polivanov" event, in this case even in winter.
50 ammo = no crisis?
conquered austrian cities help how?
Yes, AH or German cities captured will lower the chance quite drastic.
50 ammo will NOT safe you from the crisis altogether since there are a lot of other variables that are fed into the function, but it will give you a good chance to delay the crisis long enough.
Just don't attack like mad in winter and you should be fine.
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:37 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:Just don't attack like mad in winter and you should be fine.
believe me, i havent attack at all
when it says its over, it lasts like next two turns, at least ammo and pp, thats on purpose?
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:51 pm
by Robotron
Every attack made BY you and made ON you by the enemy had a chance to damage your war effort. It will take a few turns to get back up again.
SP or MP?
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:59 pm
by nehi
Robotron wrote:SP
in mp never reached so far, just vs zombo it started last turn, but russia was routed allready
games was started before u strengthen russians, ive holded most poland but just to early 1915 because both wings were broken allready
closest to line of defense it was when i left 5 hexes free up there nearby konigsberg, but constantly killing corpses (they are really fragile until industrial warfare) never let me to build up enough numbers
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.77 (beta), JUL 8th 06:40 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:15 pm
by Robotron
nehi wrote:Robotron wrote:SP
in mp never reached so far, just vs zombo it started last turn, but russia was routed allready
games was started before u strengthen russians, ive holded most poland but just to early 1915 because both wings were broken allready
closest to line of defense it was when i left 5 hexes free up there nearby konigsberg, but constantly killing corpses (they are really fragile until industrial warfare) never let me to build up enough numbers
As I said before: continue at own risk.
But your description of the supply crisis sounds rather severe.
I will upload V4.78 in a few minutes that will help with that issue in the future.
Re: POTZBLITZ V4.78 (beta), JUL 8th 10:50 PM MET
Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:54 pm
by Robotron
ScriptFix V4.78
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0N7V ... zhLeGRuOUU
- eases Russian Supply Crisis a bit and gives Russia a bit more staying power in 1914
Of course games already in progress or games where the crisis already struck will not be affected by this.