Slitherine

Here it is worth making a few additional comments. Metal caterpillar cycloid fastening on the tank "Churchill" gave slipping in the slush and ice. Therefore, domestic craftsmen inserted special steel "spurs" into them, which made it difficult for the tracks to slip.

uzbek2012 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 28, 2021 12:53 pm I understand this but it is probably possible to put Soviet troops in Grozny and Baku right now ))) + add chechen bandits )
At Stalingrad there were Cossack legions for the Germans and other traitors

phcas wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:43 pm Hello uzbek2012

Where must the Chechen show up, in what numbers and and date?

ajs81 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 3:42 pm

phcas wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:43 pm Hello uzbek2012

Where must the Chechen show up, in what numbers and and date?

After 1st August 1942 between Maikop and Grozny (near to Grozny), for this scenario max 2 infantry units (like Italian black shirt soft attack). They should be placed on the map while Axis troops cross some zone, not behind the front line.
I will call them partisans, not bandits. Nobody wanted the Soviet Union in the Caucasus region. Moreover, between 1918-19 there was the small Mountainous Republic of the Northern Caucasus.

phcas wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 1:43 pm Hello uzbek2012

Where must the Chechen show up, in what numbers and and date?

The German command planned to seize oil-producing enterprises in the regions of Grozny and Baku as part of Operation Edelweiss. The particular complexity of the planned military operations was the need to keep these enterprises intact and immediately establish the receipt of urgently needed fuel and lubricants. To solve this and a number of other tasks, the operation "Shamil" was aimed, involving the use of the "Bergmann" battalion, formed by the second department of the Abwehr in October 1941 from representatives of the peoples of the North Caucasus and Transcaucasia. Chueva " Damned soldiers. M., 2004. p. 538-540). The Nazis placed special hopes on local residents who were dissatisfied with the Soviet government. In August 1942, the battalion of saboteurs was transferred to the Caucasus near Maykop, in the area of Elbrus and other points. The German command ordered to carry out the tasks of capturing and destroying important communications, organizing an insurgent movement, as well as creating panic, and conducting anti-Soviet propaganda. At the same time, a parachute landing of 25 people under the command of Oberleutnant Lange was undertaken in the oil basin near the city of Grozny. This group was spotted and fired at while still in the air and then destroyed by Soviet fighters. However, Lange survived, he took refuge with local collaborators and after a few months returned to his own. The Germans, one by one, send their paratroopers to the rear of the Soviet troops. But every time they are destroyed. For example, in September 1942, a group of 12 saboteurs under the leadership of non-commissioned Officer Rekkert was thrown into the territory of the Chechen-Ingush ASSR. In total, it is known about five attempts to introduce reconnaissance and sabotage groups of "Brandenburgers". Even after the retreat of Hitler's troops from the Caucasus in 1943, three more attempts were made (quote from the source on the Internet "The struggle of state security agencies and NKVD troops with the armed underground on the territory of the USSR"). The German command placed special hopes, and not without reason, on the local "rebels". Only on the territory of the Chechen-Ingush ASSR in August 1942, there were 37 such formations (data from the book by N. F. Bugai " L. Beria-I. To Stalin: "According to your instructions..." Moscow, 1995. p. 91). Thus, the aforementioned group of "Brandenburgers" under the command of Rekkert, abandoned on the territory of Chechnya, relied on the help of 400 "rebels" of the R. Sahabov gang (although this did not save it from destruction). Significant assistance to troops of the NKVD in the Caucasus had four militia, about 80 teams of assistance and more than 65 guerrilla groups that have successfully implemented the techniques and methods of action of reconnaissance and sabotage groups in the struggle against the Nazi forces and their collaborators (from the book by V. P. Sidorenko. "The NKVD troops in the Caucasus during the Great Patriotic War. St. Petersburg, 1999, p. 103). Although the Germans refused to believe in the obvious facts, and in some German reports, you can find evidence that the main reason for the failure to create a Nazi "second front" in the Caucasus and the failure of Operation Shamil was the lack of the necessary number of weapons. The fascists could not admit that some of the vaunted German special forces were captured and destroyed with the help of the people's militia.

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ajs81 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 5:11 pm

ajs81 wrote: ↑Sun Jan 31, 2021 6:12 pm Uzbek please stop, it is not a place to talk about Soviet propaganda and nobody here (I hope) is Russophobic. It is a forum about Panzer Corps. Of course, a time to time, we will see some topics about politics during WWII but only from time to time. You have started the topic about "add chechen bandits" not me. BTW Chechen not chcechen it is a nation
It is your opinion but please do not push all of us to Kremlin's propaganda. And last two words. During WWII only people from Soviet Republics collaborate with Nazi Germany and Nazi was forbidden before the war (other parties also). We had Nazi in the Netherlands, Rexis in Belgium, Quisling party in Norway, nazi Tisi in Slovakia, Hungarian nazi, Romanian fascists before the war and they also join to Germany but only at Soviet Union people of Ukraina, Belarus, Tatars, Chechens, Ingush people welcomed and join to German troops. Why? Why they hated the so much Soviet Union? Because they hated communism, Stalinism, and terror.
About prisons for Japanese people in the US, nothing special, even at war movie Battle of Midway from 1976 we have this topic.

According to the generally accepted opinion, all Crimean Tatars were evicted without exception, including those who fought honestly in the Red Army or in partisan detachments. In fact, this is not the case:

"Members of the Crimean underground who were operating behind enemy lines and their family members were also exempt from the status of "special settler". So, the family of S. S. Useinov was released, who was in Simferopol during the occupation of the Crimea, was a member of an underground patriotic group from December 1942 to March 1943, then was arrested by the Nazis and shot. Family members were allowed to stay in Simferopol. " 19

"...The Crimean Tatars-front-line soldiers immediately asked to release their relatives from special settlements. Such appeals were sent by the deputy. Commander of the 2nd Aviation Squadron of the 1st Fighter Aviation Regiment of the Higher Officer School of Air Combat, Captain E. W. Chalbash, Major of the armored forces H.Chalbash and many others ... Often requests of this nature were granted, in particular, the family of E. Chalbash was allowed to live in the Kherson region. " 20