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NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:15 am Add side armor for the panzer III 'N' and 'M' 3d model.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:50 am I think the IIIM side armor pattern is going to look too similar to Panzer IVH side armor patterns.

Panzer III Ausf. M - Minor modifications of the ausf. L such as deep-wading exhaust and Schürzen side-armour panels

Magic1111 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:45 pm

Kerensky wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:50 am I think the IIIM side armor pattern is going to look too similar to Panzer IVH side armor patterns.

From Wiki:

Panzer III Ausf. M - Minor modifications of the ausf. L such as deep-wading exhaust and Schürzen side-armour panels

Source

Basically version M probably had side skirts, but maybe not every model (consider Marterial scarcity at the end of the war).

Version M without Side skirts:



Version M with Side skirts:

Kerensky wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:50 am

NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:15 am Add side armor for the panzer III 'N' and 'M' 3d model.

I definitely want it on the IIIN, because of it's role as a Close Support vehicle.

But does the IIIM absolutely need side skirts as well? I worry it might look too similar to the Panzer IVH.

I think the IIIM side armor pattern is going to look too similar to Panzer IVH side armor patterns.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 8966AC554/

The IIIN should be okay though, because the short barrel makes a huge visual difference.

uzbek2012 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:52 pm

Magic1111 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:45 pm

Kerensky wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 11:50 am I think the IIIM side armor pattern is going to look too similar to Panzer IVH side armor patterns.

From Wiki:

Panzer III Ausf. M - Minor modifications of the ausf. L such as deep-wading exhaust and Schürzen side-armour panels

Source

Basically version M probably had side skirts, but maybe not every model (consider Marterial scarcity at the end of the war).

Version M without Side skirts:



Version M with Side skirts:

I also want side screens only on the T-34 )

NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 pm
I can understand your point but both( N and M ) had side skirts but in case the dev team does not agree with this it would be cool if possible to at least add side armor to the turret just like they did with the Panzer IV J. That way panzer III M would be "unique" because right now apart from stats he is the same as L, and in reality he was a "buffed" Panzer III with more armor(the side skirts) to add a little more survivability chance.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 9:03 pm

NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:56 pm
I can understand your point but both( N and M ) had side skirts but in case the dev team does not agree with this it would be cool if possible to at least add side armor to the turret just like they did with the Panzer IV J. That way panzer III M would be "unique" because right now apart from stats he is the same as L, and in reality he was a "buffed" Panzer III with more armor(the side skirts) to add a little more survivability chance.

Okay, we have to be VERY specific on this request if it has any chance to make it into the game.

Panzer IIIM --------------> Extra Turret Only Side Armor (Like Panzer IVJ model)
Panzer IIIN ---------------> Extra Hull and Turret side armor (like Panzer IVH Model)

Am I understanding this correctly to be the best solution and desired request??

https://www.facebook.com/rubiconmodels/ ... 233421497/

NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:11 am I would like to have a Soviet Corps and allies corps expansions for panzer corps 2 just like we had in panzer corps 1. Thanks

AGREED BUT NO RUSH...

Jonesy1760 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 15, 2020 2:25 am

NeyLutzow wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 4:11 am I would like to have a Soviet Corps and allies corps expansions for panzer corps 2 just like we had in panzer corps 1. Thanks

AGREED BUT NO RUSH...

Oh yes absolutely no rush, first they should finish main panzer corps and only after go for the soviet and allied content.

• Finish the current historical German core campaign first before starting any other.

• Do not mix core units in the British and US campaigns like what happened in the first British campaign in PC. US units can be auxiliaries to your British core, but shouldn't be mixed in the core. I hated that in PC1. Even the briefing voice switched from an English chap to an American. Same goes for the US campaign.

• Separate cores for player controlled Italian and German units for African campaign, or any other idea that forces the player to use a sizable number of Italian units. Begin with only Italian core units first. If this is not feasible, then DO GIVE the player's core a mix of both units in the core, opposite of what I said above about the British and American campaigns. But do not make the Italians AI controlled!!

• I'd love to see the historical African campaign insert an ahistorical twist to extend it. Allow some fictional narrative where wiser heads prevailed and your core was evacuated from the continent to Sicily where it would continue the war in the Italian theater of operations to its conclusion in 1945.

• What to do then about your Italian core units after Italy makes peace? Have mechanic where you can only select a certain number of them who wish to continue fighting on the side of the Axis, while the rest get disbanded. Or, just like at the end of the Second Battle of El Alamein, the Germans sacrificed them to aid their own escape! Would also serve as a type of "core reset" for Operation Huskey.

• Soviet campaign should not just be a separate campaign, but even separate set of DLCs! "Soviet Campaign 1939-1940" would include the battles against Japan, Poland, occupation of the Batlic States, and Finland.

adiekmann wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:51 am On the topic of future DLCs/campaigns...

• Do not mix core units in the British and US campaigns like what happened in the first British campaign in PC. US units can be auxiliaries to your British core, but shouldn't be mixed in the core. I hated that in PC1. Even the briefing voice switched from an English chap to an American. Same goes for the US campaign.

• Soviet campaign should not just be a separate campaign, but even separate set of DLCs! "Soviet Campaign 1939-1940" would include the battles against Japan, Poland, occupation of the Batlic States, and Finland.