Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2020 10:29 am
Hello.
At the beginning of the Poland scenario, if I buy a "normal" Bf-109 A1, it costs 270. The same Bf-109 A1 [1] Oesau costs 270. They both have the same statistics and the same price. The "normal" Bf-109 B1 costs 310, the Bf-109 B1 [1] Oesau costs 310 too but has +1 in initiative. I think, and this is only my opinion, that historical fighters, tactical bombers and strategic bombers should cost more to buy and should have better statistics than "normal" aircraft.
Greetings. Bruno
Luftwaffe commanders
Sources wikipedia french english, lexikon der Wehrmacht
Poland (01/09/39)
Fighters
JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher / JG 2 Richthofen Gerd von Massow / JG 3 Udet Max Ibel / JG 76 Wilfried von Muller-Rienzburg / JG 77 Herz As Eitel Roediger von Manteuffel / JG 53 Pik As Werner Junck / JG 54 Grünherz Rudolf Stoltenhoff / JG 21 Martin Mettig / JG 20 Siegfried Lehmann / JG 26 Schlageter Eduard Ritter von Schleich / JG 70 Reinhard Seiler / JG 71 Josef Fözö / JG 51 Mölders Theo Osterkamp / JG 52 Hubert Merhart von Bernegg
Strategic bombers
KG 121 Johann-Volkmar Fisser / KG 1 Hindenburg Ulrich Kessler / KG 2 Holzhammer Johannes Fink / KG 54 Totenkopf Walter Lackner / KG 55 Greif Wilhelm Süssmann / KG 4 General Wever Martin Fiebig
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Günter Schwartzkopff / Stg 51 Heinrich von Klitzing / Stg 76 Walter Siegel / Stg 1 Walter Hagen / Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 26 Horst Wessel Kurt Bertram von Döring / Zg 1 Wespe Joachim-Friederich Huth / Zg 52 Karl-Heinz Lessmann / ZG 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann
Norway (09/04/40)
Fighters
JG 77 Herz As Eitel Roediger von Manteuffel
Strategic bombers
KG 26 Robert Fuchs / KG 4 General Wever Martin Fiebig / KG 30 Walter Loebel
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 1 Walter Hagen
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel / Joachim-Friederich Huth / Zg 1 Wespe Wolfgang Falck
Battle of Britain (10/07/40)
Fighters
JG 24 ? / JG 18 ? / JG 14 ? / JG 11 ? (non historical, JG 11 active 43/45) / JG 3 Udet Carl Viek / JG 4 (non historical, JG 4 active 42/45) / JG 2 Richthofen Harry von Bülow-Bothkamp
Strategic bombers
KG 21 (non historical) / KG 15 (non historical) / KG 8 (non historical) / KG 6 (non historical, created in october 41)
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 22 (non historical) / Stg 12 (non historical) / Stg 7 (non historical)
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 20 (non historical) / Zg 5 (non historical)
Benelux (10/05/40)
Fighters
JG 21 Fritz Ultsch / JG 27 Max Ibel / JG 53 Pik As Hans-Jürgen von Cramon-Taubadel / JG 51 Theo Osterkamp / JG 26 Schlageter Hans-Hugo Witt / JG 20 Hannes Trautloft
Strategic bombers
KG 1 Hindenburg Ernst Exss / KG 54 Totenkopf Walter Lackner / KG 55 Greif Alois Stoeckl / KG 30 Walter Loebel
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 77 Günter Schwartzkopff
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Joachim-Friederich Huth / Zg 1 Wespe Wolfgang Falck
France (04/06/40)
Fighters
JG 27 Max Ibel / JG 51 Theo Osterkamp / JG 20 / Hannes Trautloft / JG 26 Schlageter Hans-Hugo Witt / JG 53 Pik As Hans-Jürgen von Cramon-Taubadel / JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher / JG 3 Udet Carl Viek / JG 54 Grünherz / JG 77 Herz As Eitel Roediger von Manteuffel
Strategic bombers
KG 55 Greif Alois Stoeckl / KG 54 Totenkopf Otto Höhne
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 1 Wespe Wolfgang Falck / Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Joachim-Friederich Huth
Greece (01/01/41)
Fighters
JG 54 Grünherz Hannes Trautloft / JG 26 Schlageter Gerhard Schöpfel / JG 77 Herz As Bernhard Woldenga / JG 27 Wolfgang Schellmann
Strategic bombers
KG 51 Edelweiss Hanz Bruno Schulz-Heyn / KG 4 General Wever Hans-Joachim Rath / KG 2 Holzhammer Herbert Rieckhoff / KG 3 Wolfgang von Chamier-Glisczinski
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid / Stg 3 Georg Edert / 1 Schlachtgeschwader ?
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 26 Horst Wessel Johann Schalk
Barbarossa (22/06/41)
Fighters
JG 54 Grünherz Hannes Trautloft / JG 2 Richthofen Wilhelm Balthasar / JG 26 Schlageter Gerhard Schöpfel / JG 51 Mölders Werner Mölders / JG 77 Herz As Gotthard Handrick / JG 53 Pik As (small icon is JG 2 Richthofen) Freiherr von Maltzahn / JG 27 Bernhard Woldenga / JG 76 ? / 2 Lehr Geschwader Herbert Ihlefeld / JG 3 Udet Günther Lützow / JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher
Strategic bombers
KG 55 Greif Benno Kosch / KG 54 Totenkopf Otto Höhne/ KG 4 General Wever Hans-Joachim Rath / KG 51 Edelweiss Hanz Bruno Schulz-Heyn / KG 1 Hindenburg Karl Angerstein
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid / Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 51 (non historical dissolution July 40) / Stg 76 (non historical dissolution July 40)
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 1 Wespe (may be not active in Barbarossa ?) / Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Johann Schalk / Zg 26 Westa ?
Moscow 41 (02/10/41)
Fighters
JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher / JG 77 Herz As Gotthard Handrick / JG 26 Schlageter Gerhard Schöpfel / JG 53 Pik As (small icon is JG 2 Richthofen) Freiherr von Maltzahn / JG 54 Grünherz Hannes Trautloft / JG 3 Udet Günther Lützow
Strategic bombers
KG 55 Greif Benno Kosch / KG 54 Totenkopf Otto Höhne / KG 4 General Wever Hans-Joachim Rath
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid / Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 51 (non historical dissolution July 40) / Stg 76 (non historical dissolution July 40)
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 1 Wespe (may be not active in Moscow 41) / Zg 76 Haifisch Heinz Nacke / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Herbert Kaminski
At the beginning of the Poland scenario, if I buy a "normal" Bf-109 A1, it costs 270. The same Bf-109 A1 [1] Oesau costs 270. They both have the same statistics and the same price. The "normal" Bf-109 B1 costs 310, the Bf-109 B1 [1] Oesau costs 310 too but has +1 in initiative. I think, and this is only my opinion, that historical fighters, tactical bombers and strategic bombers should cost more to buy and should have better statistics than "normal" aircraft.
Greetings. Bruno
Luftwaffe commanders
Sources wikipedia french english, lexikon der Wehrmacht
Poland (01/09/39)
Fighters
JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher / JG 2 Richthofen Gerd von Massow / JG 3 Udet Max Ibel / JG 76 Wilfried von Muller-Rienzburg / JG 77 Herz As Eitel Roediger von Manteuffel / JG 53 Pik As Werner Junck / JG 54 Grünherz Rudolf Stoltenhoff / JG 21 Martin Mettig / JG 20 Siegfried Lehmann / JG 26 Schlageter Eduard Ritter von Schleich / JG 70 Reinhard Seiler / JG 71 Josef Fözö / JG 51 Mölders Theo Osterkamp / JG 52 Hubert Merhart von Bernegg
Strategic bombers
KG 121 Johann-Volkmar Fisser / KG 1 Hindenburg Ulrich Kessler / KG 2 Holzhammer Johannes Fink / KG 54 Totenkopf Walter Lackner / KG 55 Greif Wilhelm Süssmann / KG 4 General Wever Martin Fiebig
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Günter Schwartzkopff / Stg 51 Heinrich von Klitzing / Stg 76 Walter Siegel / Stg 1 Walter Hagen / Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 26 Horst Wessel Kurt Bertram von Döring / Zg 1 Wespe Joachim-Friederich Huth / Zg 52 Karl-Heinz Lessmann / ZG 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann
Norway (09/04/40)
Fighters
JG 77 Herz As Eitel Roediger von Manteuffel
Strategic bombers
KG 26 Robert Fuchs / KG 4 General Wever Martin Fiebig / KG 30 Walter Loebel
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 1 Walter Hagen
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel / Joachim-Friederich Huth / Zg 1 Wespe Wolfgang Falck
Battle of Britain (10/07/40)
Fighters
JG 24 ? / JG 18 ? / JG 14 ? / JG 11 ? (non historical, JG 11 active 43/45) / JG 3 Udet Carl Viek / JG 4 (non historical, JG 4 active 42/45) / JG 2 Richthofen Harry von Bülow-Bothkamp
Strategic bombers
KG 21 (non historical) / KG 15 (non historical) / KG 8 (non historical) / KG 6 (non historical, created in october 41)
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 22 (non historical) / Stg 12 (non historical) / Stg 7 (non historical)
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 20 (non historical) / Zg 5 (non historical)
Benelux (10/05/40)
Fighters
JG 21 Fritz Ultsch / JG 27 Max Ibel / JG 53 Pik As Hans-Jürgen von Cramon-Taubadel / JG 51 Theo Osterkamp / JG 26 Schlageter Hans-Hugo Witt / JG 20 Hannes Trautloft
Strategic bombers
KG 1 Hindenburg Ernst Exss / KG 54 Totenkopf Walter Lackner / KG 55 Greif Alois Stoeckl / KG 30 Walter Loebel
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 77 Günter Schwartzkopff
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Joachim-Friederich Huth / Zg 1 Wespe Wolfgang Falck
France (04/06/40)
Fighters
JG 27 Max Ibel / JG 51 Theo Osterkamp / JG 20 / Hannes Trautloft / JG 26 Schlageter Hans-Hugo Witt / JG 53 Pik As Hans-Jürgen von Cramon-Taubadel / JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher / JG 3 Udet Carl Viek / JG 54 Grünherz / JG 77 Herz As Eitel Roediger von Manteuffel
Strategic bombers
KG 55 Greif Alois Stoeckl / KG 54 Totenkopf Otto Höhne
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 1 Wespe Wolfgang Falck / Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Joachim-Friederich Huth
Greece (01/01/41)
Fighters
JG 54 Grünherz Hannes Trautloft / JG 26 Schlageter Gerhard Schöpfel / JG 77 Herz As Bernhard Woldenga / JG 27 Wolfgang Schellmann
Strategic bombers
KG 51 Edelweiss Hanz Bruno Schulz-Heyn / KG 4 General Wever Hans-Joachim Rath / KG 2 Holzhammer Herbert Rieckhoff / KG 3 Wolfgang von Chamier-Glisczinski
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid / Stg 3 Georg Edert / 1 Schlachtgeschwader ?
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 26 Horst Wessel Johann Schalk
Barbarossa (22/06/41)
Fighters
JG 54 Grünherz Hannes Trautloft / JG 2 Richthofen Wilhelm Balthasar / JG 26 Schlageter Gerhard Schöpfel / JG 51 Mölders Werner Mölders / JG 77 Herz As Gotthard Handrick / JG 53 Pik As (small icon is JG 2 Richthofen) Freiherr von Maltzahn / JG 27 Bernhard Woldenga / JG 76 ? / 2 Lehr Geschwader Herbert Ihlefeld / JG 3 Udet Günther Lützow / JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher
Strategic bombers
KG 55 Greif Benno Kosch / KG 54 Totenkopf Otto Höhne/ KG 4 General Wever Hans-Joachim Rath / KG 51 Edelweiss Hanz Bruno Schulz-Heyn / KG 1 Hindenburg Karl Angerstein
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid / Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 51 (non historical dissolution July 40) / Stg 76 (non historical dissolution July 40)
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 1 Wespe (may be not active in Barbarossa ?) / Zg 76 Haifisch Walter Grabmann / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Johann Schalk / Zg 26 Westa ?
Moscow 41 (02/10/41)
Fighters
JG 1 Oesau Carl-Alfred Schumacher / JG 77 Herz As Gotthard Handrick / JG 26 Schlageter Gerhard Schöpfel / JG 53 Pik As (small icon is JG 2 Richthofen) Freiherr von Maltzahn / JG 54 Grünherz Hannes Trautloft / JG 3 Udet Günther Lützow
Strategic bombers
KG 55 Greif Benno Kosch / KG 54 Totenkopf Otto Höhne / KG 4 General Wever Hans-Joachim Rath
Tactical bombers (Stuka)
Stg 77 Clemens Graf von Schönborn-Wiesentheid / Stg 2 Immelmann Oskar Dinort / Stg 51 (non historical dissolution July 40) / Stg 76 (non historical dissolution July 40)
Tactical bombers (Bf110)
Zg 1 Wespe (may be not active in Moscow 41) / Zg 76 Haifisch Heinz Nacke / Zg 26 Horst Wessel Herbert Kaminski