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Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:01 pm
by Akkula
AKRebel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:25 pm
Akkula wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:18 pm
I see my TM-312 icon there

Glad he made it to this project
Regards,
Akkula.
Thanks Akkula
If you need some other stuff, let me know. I have some material I never managed to put in Soviet Storm.
Later I will take a look into it.
Regards,
Akkula.
PS: Also, I saw my TB-3 out there

, that was a hard one to create

Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:33 pm
by Intenso82
AKRebel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:49 pm
here is a preview of the trains I created, which will gradually appear in the mod.
Impressive work and the number of units)
And among them will be OB-3?
I think I see one German among them. Is it a BP-42?
I also drew attention to a model called Zeppelin.
She is with red stars.
But isn't that a Finnish armored car?
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:16 pm
by Intenso82
Armored trains. Part two.
After the operation of the OB-3 armored train with one tower per wagon. It became clear that the two tower armored wagon were impractical.
And it was decided to build the next series of BP-43 with one tower. A 76mm tank gun was placed there. 21 pieces were built.
In fact, after 43 years, the loss of armored trains drastically decreased and they decided not to build them anymore.
Of course, before BP-43 there were still versions with 2 tank towers, but only 5 of them were built.
But more than 70 anti-aircraft armored trains were built.
For example, this type with 2 - 76 mm anti-aircraft guns.
(Of course they should be turned up)
Of course, there was also an anti-aircraft armored platform PVO-4. 2x 37mm anti-aircraft guns.
Guile already made such an icon.
And here, in the red frame is the Finnish anti-aircraft armored car.
Although they had only two armored trains.

Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:12 am
by uzbek2012
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:15 pm
by AKRebel
Akkula wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 8:01 pm
AKRebel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:25 pm
Akkula wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 7:18 pm
I see my TM-312 icon there

Glad he made it to this project
Regards,
Akkula.
Thanks Akkula
If you need some other stuff, let me know. I have some material I never managed to put in Soviet Storm.
Later I will take a look into it.
Regards,
Akkula.
PS: Also, I saw my TB-3 out there

, that was a hard one to create
Hello Akulla,
yes I would be grateful for further material, that makes it easier for me to create more. Can you give me your things, gladly also designs?
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:23 pm
by AKRebel
Intenso82 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 9:33 pm
AKRebel wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 5:49 pm
here is a preview of the trains I created, which will gradually appear in the mod.
Impressive work and the number of units)
And among them will be OB-3?
I think I see one German among them. Is it a BP-42?
I also drew attention to a model called Zeppelin.
She is with red stars.
But isn't that a Finnish armored car?
Hello,
And among them will be OB-3?
it is still missing, partly it is difficult to create such units due to poor templates. Maybe I can still do it, but I can't promise anything.
I think I see one German among them. Is it a BP-42?
Yes, right, wasn't it also used on the Soviet side?
I also drew attention to a model called Zeppelin.
She is with red stars.
But isn't that a Finnish armored car?
I don't think it's about this, do I?
that corresponds to the penultimate unit.
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:26 pm
by AKRebel
Hello Uzbek, we are checking the implementation.
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:03 pm
by AKRebel
Intenso82 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 28, 2020 10:16 pm
Armored trains. Part two.
After the operation of the OB-3 armored train with one tower per wagon. It became clear that the two tower armored wagon were impractical.
And it was decided to build the next series of BP-43 with one tower. A 76mm tank gun was placed there. 21 pieces were built.
In fact, after 43 years, the loss of armored trains drastically decreased and they decided not to build them anymore.
Of course, before BP-43 there were still versions with 2 tank towers, but only 5 of them were built.
But more than 70 anti-aircraft armored trains were built.
For example, this type with 2 - 76 mm anti-aircraft guns.
(Of course they should be turned up)
Of course, there was also an anti-aircraft armored platform PVO-4. 2x 37mm anti-aircraft guns.
Guile already made such an icon.
And here, in the red frame is the Finnish anti-aircraft armored car.
Although they had only two armored trains.
Hello Intenso,
the pictures are very helpful, but I don't understand Russian,
can you please give me the names of the individual wagons, trains in English or better German?
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:29 pm
by phcas

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In the mod now
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:53 pm
by uzbek2012
Wery well )
By the beginning of the attack on the USSR, the German land forces had 12 armored trains (bepo). For comparison, we can mention that in the same period only the Red army (not counting the NKVD troops) was armed with 28 light and 13 heavy armored trains, which significantly exceeded the German in their combat capabilities.
Content source:
https://naukatehnika.com/bronepoezda-rejxa.html
https://trinixy.ru/155617-poteryannye-s ... -foto.html
https://wwii.space/bronepoezda-i-broned ... germaniya/
https://feldgrau.info/2010-09-02-14-48- ... oezda-ch-3
http://www.wio.ru/rr/ww2sov.htm

German infantrymen on a captured Soviet armored train. The armored train belonged to the 57th regiment of the 4th division of railway protection of the NKVD troops and was lost in battle. Army group South, July 1941
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/cyrilsh/soi ... 1d41704cc5


FRONT ILLUSTRATION #3 2004. ARMORED TRAINS OF THE RED ARMY 1930-1941
http://militarylib.com/magazines/front- ... -1941.html
ARMORED TRAINS OF THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR. "LAND IRONCLADS" OF THE RED ARMY (WAR AND WE. TANK COLLECTION)
http://militarylib.com/ww2/ww2-armored- ... armii.html
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:36 pm
by Intenso82
Can you make the same icon, but with a Soviet General?
This may be the commander of the Army or the Front.

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Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2020 8:09 pm
by uzbek2012
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Mon Jul 13, 2020 7:36 pm
by AKRebel
Intenso82 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:36 pm
Can you make the same icon, but with a Soviet General?
This may be the commander of the Army or the Front.
00000_Commander.png

Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:53 pm
by Intenso82
Could add the Soviet armored tractor KhTZ-16.
No more than 100 pieces were produced. But this was the most common ersatz armored tractor.
To do this, the STZ-3 chassis can be used (McGuba work).
Because it was made on the basis of STZ-3.

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Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 12:23 pm
by uzbek2012
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:37 pm
by AKRebel
Intenso82 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:53 pm
Could add the Soviet armored tractor KhTZ-16.
No more than 100 pieces were produced. But this was the most common ersatz armored tractor.
To do this, the STZ-3 chassis can be used (McGuba work).
Because it was made on the basis of STZ-3.
Soviet_STZ-3.png

Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:10 pm
by Intenso82
AKRebel wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:37 pm
Thanks for the quick answer
In the German unit roster, I saw a lot of railroad artillery with two modes.
The first is transit mode?
And the second mode with a camouflage net is the mode in position with the ability to fire and camo trait?
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:29 am
by phcas
Intenso82 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:10 pm
In the German unit roster, I saw a lot of railroad artillery with two modes.
The first is transit mode?
And the second mode with a camouflage net is the mode in position with the ability to fire and camo trait?
No, first mode is normal to fire. Second mode is camouflage, you can not fire but hide the gun. It gets the "camo" trait so is hard to spot for the enemy (camouflage net)
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:25 am
by McGuba
Nice job with that KhTZ-16! I made an alternative version:

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Maybe better to name it T-16? As the KhTZ-16 looks a bit weird in English. As the Kh refers to Kharkov as far as I know which should be pronounced more like Harkov as it is written in many other languages. So maybe HTZ-16 would be better in that case probably being closer to the original Russian pronunciation but that is not in line with the official sources.
Re: New Projekt: Phcas & AKRebels Mod "PAK" - ToDos / Wishlist
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 11:54 am
by Intenso82
McGuba wrote: ↑Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:25 am
Maybe better to name it T-16? As the KhTZ-16 looks a bit weird in English. As the Kh refers to Kharkov as far as I know which should be pronounced more like Harkov as it is written in many other languages. So maybe HTZ-16 would be better in that case probably being closer to the original Russian pronunciation but that is not in line with the official sources.
Thanks!
I don't really like the name KhTZ-16 either.
T-16 (HTZ) or HTZ-16 (KhTZ-16) all options are correct.
Although in English sources it is customary to call KhTZ-16.