Slitherine

MikeK wrote:

nikgaukroger wrote:Your suggestion is really no better than the current wording - saying something like "Make an Advance ..." is better as "an advance" means something specific in the rules.

Yes it does mean something specific, but Making an Advance is still a subset of Contracting + Making an Advance, so I don't see how it helps you.

I feel this could be achieved in a very simple manner. When pinned, your BG can perform only a move from 'Advances' or 'Turns' of the 'Simple & Complex Moves Table'. The move must be toward enemy, directly away from him, or stationary. If you wheel or turn, you must do so only to align to enemy front.
Of course, this needs a better English than mine . Anyway, the core of my idea is to identify the permitted moves not with a generic 'Advance' but with the 'Advances' in the table. This exclude change of formation like contractions and expansions, that IMO are not realistic.

MikeK wrote:
Yes it does mean something specific, but Making an Advance is still a subset of Contracting + Making an Advance, so I don't see how it helps you.

Because an Advance as per p42 cannot include a contraction, that comes under Contractions (which can be combined with an advance). Simples

nikgaukroger wrote:

MikeK wrote:
Yes it does mean something specific, but Making an Advance is still a subset of Contracting + Making an Advance, so I don't see how it helps you.

Because an Advance as per p42 cannot include a contraction, that comes under Contractions (which can be combined with an advance). Simples

Which leaves the logic intact, or reinforces it. An advance cannot include a contraction, but it can be done with a contraction, and an advance is an advance whether served a la carte or with cookies on the side.

It really needs limiting language of some kind.

A separate question is the pros and cons of prohibiting contractions, expansions, and turns (and maybe double wheels) in this situation. My brain is too full right now to ponder.

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petedalby wrote:

Yes but you are allowed to contract to avoid a flank charge, as long as you move forward a small amount. You are then making a move that ends further away from the enemy and remaining partly in front.

Sorry but I think you are mistaken.

A BG in a restricted area can not contract under any circumstance unless it then ends further away.

But it does end further away, as I stated. It was facing perpendicular to the pinning BG, so by contracting the nearest part of the BG is further away than before. So I am not mistaken.

But it does end further away, as I stated. It was facing perpendicular to the pinning BG, so by contracting the nearest part of the BG is further away than before. So I am not mistaken.

I do apologise.

I misunderstood your example.

Pete