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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 10:06 am
by SirAllan
Thx Terminator :)
But it should have been avaible from late 42 to late sept 44 and not first at mit june 44 :shock:
Thats why I didnt saw in the Kursk scenario :cry:

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2018 12:31 pm
by terminator
SirAllan wrote:Thx Terminator :)
But it should have been avaible from late 42 to late sept 44 and not first at mit june 44 :shock:
Thats why I didnt saw in the Kursk scenario :cry:
I hope to see this « Panzerknacker » (Henschel Hs 129) going into action soon :!:
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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 6:34 pm
by CoolDTA
Now I wonder what are those Hs 129s firing at in the lower picture... The A-40 perhaps? ;)

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:52 am
by Erik2
Panzerwerfer 42
Brummbär (or is this the same as the Sturmpanzer IV?)

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:20 am
by GUNDOBALDO08
No Erik, brummbar is based on tiger I chassis, sturmpanzer IV on Pz IV chassis

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:02 am
by CoolDTA
Actually Sturmpanzer IV is Brummbär. The vehicle GUNDOBALDO08 is referring to is Sturmtiger (38 cm RW 61 auf Sturmmörser Tiger, Tiger-Mörser).

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:13 am
by GUNDOBALDO08
CoolDTA you’re right, I confused, but so I wish sturmtiger too ;)

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:32 am
by CoolDTA
It certainly should be there. Btw., I think the confusion was because one of the many names of Sturmtiger is Sturmpanzer VI. :)

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:40 am
by Juansana
Anti-Air switch to Earth Battle, from the beginning. 8.8 cm Anti air switch to artillery... and finally show the complete map

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am
by Mojko
GUNDOBALDO08 wrote: Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:20 am No Erik, brummbar is based on tiger I chassis, sturmpanzer IV on Pz IV chassis
Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:38 pm
by CoolDTA
Mojko wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.
Good catch! Brummbär is op in OoB and that would explain it: apparently also the devs have mixed up Brummbär and Sturmtiger. Unit Navigator - always useful. :)

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:56 am
by ubcbeer
Sd.Kfz HT Series
Sd.Kfz. 251/9 - Schützenpanzerwagen (7.5 cm KwK37)-RECON class
Sd.Kfz. 251/17 - Schützenpanzerwagen (2 cm). Anti-aircraft vehicle armed with a 2 cm KwK38- AA class
Sd.Kfz. 251/22 - 7.5 cm PaK40 L/46 auf mittlerem Schützenpanzerwagen. Fitted with a 75 mm PaK 40 anti-tank gun-AT class
Sd.Kfz. 251/21 - Schützenpanzerwagen (Drilling MG151s) AA Class

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:40 pm
by GabeKnight
CoolDTA wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:38 pm
Mojko wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.
Good catch! Brummbär is op in OoB and that would explain it: apparently also the devs have mixed up Brummbär and Sturmtiger. Unit Navigator - always useful. :)
Sorry, but that's a topic I can't just follow right... But I'm curious about the technicality: Are the stats or just the name that's wrong with that unit in OoB?

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 2:57 pm
by terminator
GabeKnight wrote: Sat Jul 14, 2018 1:40 pm
CoolDTA wrote: Fri Jul 13, 2018 12:38 pm
Mojko wrote: Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:08 am Actually, I'm really confused as well. If you look at the stats of the Brummbar you can see it's really comparable to Tiger in defence.
Good catch! Brummbär is op in OoB and that would explain it: apparently also the devs have mixed up Brummbär and Sturmtiger. Unit Navigator - always useful. :)
Sorry, but that's a topic I can't just follow right... But I'm curious about the technicality: Are the stats or just the name that's wrong with that unit in OoB?
In PanzerCorps, the Brummbär has the same values of defense (Ground Def. = 16) as the Panzer IVH.
In OoB, Pz IVH :
- defense against vehicles = 15
- defense against infantry = 18
I think that these values would be better adapted for the Brummbär.

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 4:02 pm
by CoolDTA
Terminator nailed it. In addition the faulty way to put Brummbär (and other assault guns) into the tank class makes it even more op. This is handled much better in PzC and all other similar games. Only in OoB it is incorrectly a tank. :roll:

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2018 5:15 pm
by GUNDOBALDO08
Maybe Devs put assault guns in tank rooster because in antitank they put only vehicles with antitank capacity. It could be an idea ti create an apposite assault gun rooster...

Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:07 pm
by terminator
Another problem with the Brummbär is that the unit traits show that the Brummbär can switch with Anti-Tank Mode and in reality the Brummbär can switch with Tank Mode :

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Re: 43-45 german units wish list

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:23 am
by Admiral_Horthy
Because Anti-tank-Artillery mode Switch was used without making it a separate trait command. Same when I abused weapon switch (mortar for infantry) for cavalry high-risk charge, and is displayed as mortar barrage.

I think this tank switching makes no sense. Back in the early Pacific "era" all the jap arty had AT-mode. I think they still have... ? Well most is not all german (and soviet) artillery used cumulative (HEAT) rounds for direct fire self defense.