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Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 2:15 pm
by morge4
bru888 wrote:Do I detect no Coastal Road Seaside Hex Distortion in those screenshots? If so, then I would be happy indeed. Very, very happy.
Appears to me that they have hexes turned off...so hard to tell if it is fixed or not. But I'm hoping it is.

Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Sat Mar 10, 2018 3:34 pm
by bru888
morge4 wrote:bru888 wrote:Do I detect no Coastal Road Seaside Hex Distortion in those screenshots? If so, then I would be happy indeed. Very, very happy.
Appears to me that they have hexes turned off...so hard to tell if it is fixed or not. But I'm hoping it is.

No, Shards explained it thusly in the global version of this announcement thread:
Shards wrote:bru888 wrote:Those coastlines . . . those neighboring road hexes . . . they . . . they're beautiful again! Say, is this real or have these screenshots been photoshopped?

This is how the game looks in the developer mode, the hair pulling frustration of those crocodile sea hexes is that the issue only appears once we make a build of the game!

I said in another thread someplace that this blemish could be likened to a hairy wart on a beautiful woman's nose. Waxing poetic was I.
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:37 am
by terminator
Erik2 wrote:Do I detect Free French and South African troops?

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Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:10 pm
by Erik2
Manstein75 wrote:For now - no answers ! How many new terrain typs will come with the new African DLC ?
Only one announced, Arid.
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:17 pm
by terminator
I found these terrain typs in the official game folder :

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I do not know what will be retained to the end (?)
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:40 am
by Erik2
Aha, that is quite interesting.
Especially the large river type which I have asked for since the original beta.
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:51 am
by terminator
Erik2 wrote:Aha, that is quite interesting.
Especially the large river type which I have asked for since the original beta.
If I remember well, this type of terrain (large river) was already present for the beta of Panzerkrieg (perhaps even before ?).
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:53 am
by Erik2
There was a lot of Italian units available at some point during Panzerkrieg beta. I guess the Sandstorm designer had started work on this campaign.
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:04 am
by terminator
I think that a problem could be how to distinguish a normal river of a large river on the map ?
Large River = impassable river (PzCorps)
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:12 am
by calmhatchery
terminator wrote:I think that a problem could be how to distinguish a normal river of a large river on the map ?
Large River = impassable river (PzCorps)
But we have engineer units thay can build the bridge

, maybe in the case of a large river it would be a special specialization for engineer

I don't know

Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:17 am
by terminator
calmhatchery wrote:terminator wrote:I think that a problem could be how to distinguish a normal river of a large river on the map ?
Large River = impassable river (PzCorps)
But we have engineer units thay can build the bridge

, maybe in the case of a large river it would be a special specialization for engineer

I don't know

Yes, in PzCorps bridgeEngineer and some tank Bridgelayer could make this large river passable.
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:20 am
by Erik2
I suggested to the devs long time ago that the large river could have a dark blue colour.
I would be fine with engineers creating pontoon bridges over a large river. Maybe a resource cost and take 2 turns.
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:21 am
by calmhatchery
Erik2 wrote:I suggested to the devs long time ago that the large river could have a dark blue colour.
I would be fine with engineers creating pontoon bridges over a large river. Maybe a resource cost and take 2 turns.
Yes it is a good idea. and more than one turn !!
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:29 am
by terminator
Erik2 wrote:I suggested to the devs long time ago that the large river could have a dark blue colour.
Personally, I find that the normal rivers which we have at present are slightly too wide on the map :
- normal river -> less wide
- large river -> wider and darker
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:31 pm
by Horst
The large_river terrain picture isn't new.
This is how the unfinished
desert and
rough_desert look in the game v5.2.9. It's of much lesser quality what we see in the Sandstorm screenshots:

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Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 4:54 pm
by rocklobb
Who can even think about river width? We are talking about the Sahara, Afrika Corps and Monty! I can't hardly wait!
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:47 pm
by terminator
rocklobb wrote:Who can even think about river width? We are talking about the Sahara, Afrika Corps and Monty! I can't hardly wait!
The German's strategic goal had been to slice through Egypt, capture the Suez Canal, enter the British Mandate of Palestine, activate an Arab uprising against the British, and finally link up with German forces thrusting south from Southern Russia.
Suez Canal = large impassable River ?

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Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:56 pm
by Erik2
And there should be wadis and a Quatarra (sp?) depression.
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:05 pm
by kondi754
You forgot about the Nile River, one of the largest rivers in the world.
It seems to me that the Nile near Cairo is wider than the Suez Canal...
Re: Order of Battle: Sandstorm is coming!
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 7:18 pm
by Horst
El Alamein is the end of Rommel's road anyway, so the Nile and Suez Canal shouldn't really matter.