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TripleCP wrote: I'd argue that they should retain full or near full effectiveness for several turns. The whole point of the German panzer divisions (and their Western and Soviet counterparts in the later years of the war) was to punch a hole in the enemy's defenses and race ahead to their operational or strategic objectives. These formations carried with them enough fuel, ammunition, food, and other supplies for several days or even weeks of sustained combat operations, and even had mobile repair workshops along with spare replacement vehicles complete with their crews. The German plans for the invasion of France included the possibility of air supply to the panzer divisions, but this ended up not being necessary. If you ever read any accounts by Guderian, Rommel, or their subordinates, they all emphasize the need for the panzer divisions to keep pushing forward and bypass any significant pockets of resistance rather than constantly getting bogged down in combat. The way the scenarios in the Blitzkrieg DLC play out is usually the opposite: your tanks should advance cautiously and stay fairly close to the infantry to provide flanking support and to hunt down damaged units that have been forced to retreat, and you should take rather than bypass most towns and villages along or near your line of advance. It's not a matter of difficulty, as you'll usually be able to take your time and still achieve victory (which is also ahistorical).

The flip side is there's little reason for your panzer spearheads to race ahead to grab railheads, road junctions, bridges, etc. because supply flows freely through all hexes, even across major rivers, mountains, trackless deserts and jungles, and other terrain that would be impassible for supply trucks. Therefore it makes more sense to use them as a slow moving steamroller (often the scenario objectives include just that: destroy X number of enemy units).

Maybe there could be a unit trait or specialization (which the Germans would have from the outset) allowing panzer and motorized infantry units to be supply independent for X amount of turns. Western and Soviet armored units did not function this way at the beginning of the war but would need to acquire this ability to carry out mid- to late-war breakthrough and pursuit scenarios like Operation Cobra or Operation Bagration. To the best of my knowledge, both Japanese and Allied tank formations usually served in the infantry support role in the Pacific theater (the sole exception being the Red Army's August 1945 Manchurian offensive).

bru888 wrote:Note to self: Never read a negative review thread prior to playing the campaign yourself.

Here's the deal, and I don't care if I sound like a fan boy. I just finished Kriegsmarine and I had a lot of fun. FUN.

For the first time ever in this series, I used submarines to good effect and I enjoyed doing so. I like the new battleship primary gun module and it worked fine for me. The missions were challenging and exciting and I got into every one of them. That last battle in the Atlantic was a humdinger.

Sure, there were only nine scenarios. But I paid only $9.99 for Kriegsmarine. That's exactly $1.11 per scenario, and I had hours of fun. FUN. A pack of chewing gum probably costs more than $1.11 these days.

I could go on and answer point for point some of the negative stuff that was put down in that other thread, but I'm not going to bother. Maybe I am a fan boy. Maybe I'm a village idiot when it comes to WWII and wargaming. Maybe I've got a low threshold of fun. FUN.

But you know what? I DID have . . . well, you get the idea by now.

Andy2012 wrote: Nothing wrong with having fun.

Horst wrote:The mines work fine now. It's sometimes ridiculous how the AI tends to detect them though. I was going to scream in Western Approaches when those dang supply ships moved around my single naval mine, but laughed when it still suddenly steamed right into the mines after 2 turns of fooling around them.

Andy2012 wrote:@bru: Well, KM is not a disaster. But Blitzkrieg set a certain standard and even though KM was half-price, it didnt live up to my expectations. And I still think that there was more untapped potential there, especially in terms of mission design and balancing. Mostly, subs and BBs were not worth your money, but they were the iconic weapons of the Kriegsmarine. So it just needed a couple of weeks more. But well.

Horst wrote:Bru, Blitzkrieg is quite good and offers enough varied mission objectives, although some people give the impression it's mainly only kill-them-all. I mean, you tend to defeat the whole AI units in every scenario either, but showing a large unit-counter is possibly somewhat frustrating to watch in certain scenarios.
The maps are fine too there for that they are often quite small-scaled (less detailed, showing much territory).