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Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:38 pm
by McGuba
i am starting to populate the scenario ..... i am not really good at unit design so i borrowed some images from this fantastic site

http://www.juniorgeneral.org/

the resul is a new skin for panzer corps units in a more india stile see below
Well, to be honest, I am not a big fan of this "indie" look. :(
I just prefer the good old Panzer Corps units style. Making new infantry units is one of the easier thing compared to making new planes or tanks from scratch. You can use the vanilla units and just change the colour here and there and you have a new looking unit. And
BiteNibbleChomp wrote:
If I was making this mod, I would just be going for a slight recolouring of the infantry units the game already has. It makes it a lot easier to program the animations that way.

- BNC
BNC is absolutely right. It is one thing to create a new unit icon, but it is much harder to make appropriate matching animations. So I would also suggest to use existing unit icons as for those you can use the existing unit animations.

For example our friend Gary Childress made some nice infantry for both sides a while ago:
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Spanish_Rep_Inf.png
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I would definitely use these, or variations of these as I think they are superb. I know that for example the Nationalists had a sand yellow uniform as well for those Moroccan Regulars and they might had a red hat, but the above icon can be easily recoloured to get the desired result. You can also use these to your idea to have different "levels" of infantry by erasing one or two figures. Just always keep in mind the animations. For the above ones I think the Bridge Engineer animation fits nicely as it only has rifle fire (submachine guns were not very common in the Spanish Civil War if I am right.)

It is also fairly easy to make irregular infantry - you just need to recolour some parts of their uniform to make look like random civilian cloths - just like I did for the partisans in my mod:
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Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:57 pm
by McGuba
cicciopastic wrote: tonight i produced truks for both Republicanos and Nacionales ... i think i am not very good at taking suggestion as i am going straight on my way , but please, go on with me and be patient .... u never know sooner or later i may come up with something good

here is the nationalist trucks
Again, I am not a big fan of side view unit icons as they differ from the original ones and if you intend to use original icons as well then they will look awkward on the map next to each other. So why do not you just pick some of those oldie looking truck icons that were made by some icon makers here?

For example:

Gary Childress:
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Henschel 33 was used by Legion Condor.

or the Soviet GAZ-AA that I use in BE:
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Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2016 9:45 pm
by cicciopastic
BiteNibbleChomp wrote: Starting strength is done by shift-clicking the unit in the editor and then changing the strength value on the menu that pops up.

- BNC
got it tks very much
McGuba wrote:
BiteNibbleChomp wrote:
If I was making this mod, I would just be going for a slight recolouring of the infantry units the game already has. It makes it a lot easier to program the animations that way.

- BNC
BNC is absolutely right. It is one thing to create a new unit icon, but it is much harder to make appropriate matching animations. So I would also suggest to use existing unit icons as for those you can use the existing unit animations.

ok i see ... i will give it some more tries before going on, but it will take some time ... i' ll let u know how's going

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:17 pm
by Latro
McGuba wrote: Well, to be honest, I am not a big fan of this "indie" look. :(
I just prefer the good old Panzer Corps units style. Making new infantry units is one of the easier thing compared to making new planes or tanks from scratch. You can use the vanilla units and just change the colour here and there and you have a new looking unit.
Maybe with a bit of editing they can be made too look more like pzc icons.

just a quick try

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 5:39 pm
by Latro
Not too bad in-game, maybe a tad darker?.

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:17 pm
by flakfernrohr
Here is a link to a zip file of all the Spanish units I found in my files. Some are vanilla style and some are from DMP mods. Many of these were originally made by VPaulus years ago when he did a mod on the Spanish CW (2011-2012).

SPANISH PANZER CORP GRAPHICS, ETC.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/y2doifptlr116 ... H.zip?dl=0

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:40 pm
by Latro
Three tank edits.

Nationalist and republican BT-5
Nationalist T-26

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:43 pm
by Latro
Republican T-26

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:38 pm
by cicciopastic
WOW! thank you guys .... i am overwhelmed by all this ... i may use all these units u draw or sent!!!!!!

all materil is absolutely fabulous!!!!!

my i dare some some requests???? is there anybody who wants to try to make some militias to make them more looking as civilians ... something like i was tring to do
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thanks again ciccio

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:53 pm
by cicciopastic
Latro wrote:
McGuba wrote: Well, to be honest, I am not a big fan of this "indie" look. :(
I just prefer the good old Panzer Corps units style. Making new infantry units is one of the easier thing compared to making new planes or tanks from scratch. You can use the vanilla units and just change the colour here and there and you have a new looking unit.
Maybe with a bit of editing they can be made too look more like pzc icons.

just a quick try
tercio estranjeros.png
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how did u do that!!!!! i want to learn .... i am tryng to use GIMP but I am not really worth a thing!!!!!!

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:25 pm
by cicciopastic
first try ever to get a custom spanish militia ...

i got to do some learning!!!!
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Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:47 pm
by cicciopastic
here a second try
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it is not really PC style yet ... but let me try some more .... i have to learn GIMP...

any comment? any suggestion????

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:10 am
by flakfernrohr
Latro those are really nice tank units. I am going to add them to my files. :)

I found the attached set of Portugese units but I do not have the units as individuals, only the image I posted. If someone wants these made into individual vanilla style units for their files, I will make them and post them. Just send Pvt EMAIL on forum

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:50 am
by nikivdd
From my Legacy of Versailles Ultimate database, some units made by Churchlakecity:
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Spanish republican units

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:52 am
by nikivdd
SPA_NAT_Infanterie.png
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SPA_NAT_Guardia-Civil.png
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SPA_NAT_MG-Team.png
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Spanish nationalist units.

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:57 am
by nikivdd
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Some Kondor Legion unit samples.

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:59 am
by Latro
cicciopastic wrote:here a second try
second try.png
it is not really PC style yet ... but let me try some more .... i have to learn GIMP...

any comment? any suggestion????
Contrast in the PzC icons is very stark. When shading and highlighting the Indie ones very dark tones are apparently to be used for the dark areas.
Not achieved by adjusting the contrast and brightness values in the paint programme. I find.

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 7:51 pm
by cicciopastic
hi guys,

here my first attempt to make a new plane from scratch ... i worked on a real photo to do it
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this is a Vickers Vildebeest light bomber: what do u think over it? ... i want to start to populate my mod, but i would like to make some more practice before doing it ...

i told u ... u must have patiente with me ... i started learning GMP less than a week ago!!!


cheers

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 9:13 pm
by cicciopastic
i added a few details
vildebeest2.png
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i think i am not that far .....
Portugese units2.jpg
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i maybe need some more shining colors ....

Re: Spanish Civil War

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:06 pm
by cicciopastic
this is my last work for the day ... i think i hardly can do better than this ....
Portugese units3.jpg
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good night, ciccio