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Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:07 pm
by AlbertoC
Shards wrote:Hi,

Actually, everyone will get multiple matches. The tournaments use a Swiss system to match you up for the next round and they use the points, not Win/Loss to calculate your ranking. So a narrow defeat could still lead to ultimate victory!
Indeed!

You can lose a battle but still win the war.

The winner of the tournament will be the player who will have scored more points at the end of 6 games (3 rounds).

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 3:17 pm
by AmbrosioSpinola
Shards wrote:Hi,

Actually, everyone will get multiple matches. The tournaments use a Swiss system to match you up for the next round and they use the points, not Win/Loss to calculate your ranking. So a narrow defeat could still lead to ultimate victory!
:oops: Ops, sorry, I spoke too soon...

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:44 pm
by IckieStickie
Heh well heres my Match report:) After a shakey start alls going swell untill half way through day 19 im told by my buddy S***!it not scenario based!!it's VP's etc,so then i think ah ive blown it with one day to go its impossible!...so i try and remoanouver my units to go for vp instead but really it was too late,not too mention didnt notice it wasnt Race to the meuse either!:( Thats what i get for really not doing my homework,next two matches will be diffrent thats for sure.Ive not even played that longer day 29 Battle of the Bulge scenario either,hence thought it ended alot sooner.Fair play to my opponent. :| :| :|Eight hours of play too.... :oops:

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:45 pm
by lgscarlet
Thank you to Matrix, Slitherine, Shenandoa and all the poeple who makes this game and tournament posible.

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:55 pm
by IckieStickie
AmbrosioSpinola wrote:
Shards wrote:Hi,

Actually, everyone will get multiple matches. The tournaments use a Swiss system to match you up for the next round and they use the points, not Win/Loss to calculate your ranking. So a narrow defeat could still lead to ultimate victory!
:oops: Ops, sorry, I spoke too soon...
Just as well because i totally screwed that first one up!!! :roll:..What about a complete defeat?can that still lead to a Victory in two matches?

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:10 pm
by COLHoneyBadger
lgscarlett:

The delay is probably because people are playing all over the planet, in different time zones. I know I've routinely played other tournament players who live in Europe, the Americas, Asia, and Australia.

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:18 pm
by lgscarlet
COLHoneyBadger wrote:lgscarlett:

The delay is probably because people are playing all over the planet, in different time zones. I know I've routinely played other tournament players who live in Europe, the Americas, Asia, and Australia.
Mate the last time I have been in bed was from sunday 11 to monday 12 (slept for 8 hours aprox). This last night I have been working up to 16:00 aprox., then had lunch and the played my turn. Don't you think 39 hours without sleep is too much? I could have some sleep this afternoon if I knew this would happen.

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 8:51 pm
by COLHoneyBadger
lgscarlett:

Sounds frustrating. Of course, as Sun Tzu said: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting.” Seems as though your opponent has already started doing that to you. Good luck with everything.

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:06 pm
by lgscarlet
Well he's in Europe too, like me. He messaged to me and told he's going to bed now.

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:28 pm
by IckieStickie
I just edited mine mate...it does the job!

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:31 pm
by Delloknon
Brucep most annoying ever to play with i literaly think hes trying to make me quit out of sheer boredom as it takes him 30 mins plus everymove literally the battle has taken more than 8 hours due to the wait time inbetween moves and sorry to say i cant deal with that sort of mockery and incompetence as while im a strategic gamer it certainly doesnt take me a darn hour to make one move decision so i bid you adieu hoping i never have to play against a opponent like that again

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2016 10:38 pm
by IckieStickie
Delloknon wrote:Brucep most annoying ever to play with i literaly think hes trying to make me quit out of sheer boredom as it takes him 30 mins plus everymove literally the battle has taken more than 8 hours due to the wait time inbetween moves and sorry to say i cant deal with that sort of mockery and incompetence as while im a strategic gamer it certainly doesnt take me a darn hour to make one move decision so i bid you adieu hoping i never have to play against a opponent like that again
Lol :roll: Did you win?.... if id known we had two n half days or 60 hours to play the (longer)december the 29th scenario called battle of the bulge i would have practised that map instead of 40+ attempts at Race to the Meuse for the last 7 days!!!haha i didnt even realise all this untill the 20th!!! Half way through todays game!,Heh oh deary me,i knew just those two hours sleep yesterday would come back to haunt me!Roll on game 2... :mrgreen:

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:49 am
by AlbertoC
Delloknon wrote:Brucep most annoying ever to play with i literaly think hes trying to make me quit out of sheer boredom as it takes him 30 mins plus everymove literally the battle has taken more than 8 hours due to the wait time inbetween moves and sorry to say i cant deal with that sort of mockery and incompetence as while im a strategic gamer it certainly doesnt take me a darn hour to make one move decision so i bid you adieu hoping i never have to play against a opponent like that again
Please, keep it civil folks.

Not everyone plays the same way, some people play their turn when they have free time, and it's a PBEM game so you can't expect your opponent to submit his turn immediately.

There are time limits: if he goes past the time limit, you'll win by forfeit.

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:57 am
by Gerifonte
Yes,I wear all day without a turn. but I waited patiently

well, actually is that has me very afraidr.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:27 pm
by IckieStickie
Gerifonte wrote:Yes,I wear all day without a turn. but I waited patiently

well, actually is that has me very afraidr.... :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
It might actually be some peoples tactics,because it could work for some,i can see that..everyone to their own!I suppose as long as you Win it doesnt really matter one way or another how you do it.

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 5:07 pm
by Gerifonte
punctuation not understand how it works.
I do not understand how my opponent is 5 and me 12 . when I do not see significant difference in our games

http://www.slitherine.com/tournaments/s ... selround=1

Can someone explain it to me?

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:08 pm
by COLHoneyBadger
Gerifonte:

Good question. I do not understand either. On the game where I was the Allies, my first-round opponent got 15 points. On the game where I was the Germans, I got 83 points. To me, that might reasonably give me 68 points. (And I suppose give my opponent -68).

It is very unclear how this tournament is being scored. Anyone - is there some sort of scoring table or rule book available?

Thanks!

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:37 am
by AlbertoC
There are 30 points available in a game, and they are split between the two players depending on victory conditions (as follows):

- 30 Points to the winner if Automatic victory is obtained (by reaching the Meuse before the end of the 19th).
- 95%-5% for a victory on Day 20
- 90%-10% for Day 21

and so on, down to

- 55%-45% for Day 28

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:13 am
by Gerifonte
hi,
the rules are the rules and you have to accept them. But as you on the other post in a previous post how can it be normal for a participant to lose every game to win the tournament?


that's not normal. victory is victory!!!

Re: Battle of the Bulge Tournament - Round 1! Fight!

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2016 8:19 am
by AlbertoC
Gerifonte wrote:hi,
the rules are the rules and you have to accept them. But as you on the other post in a previous post how can it be normal for a participant to lose every game to win the tournament?


that's not normal. victory is victory!!!
If you lose every game it's mathematically impossible to win the tournament.