Slitherine

Right,

here are the rules for the comp updated 4/7/2016

Comp rules

The rules to be used are FOG: RENAISSANCE. See the Slitherine forum for the latest errata

The Competition is 15mm.

The list submitted must not exceed 800 points.

Theme : Open Book
• 800 points maximum
• No more than 50% of the army can be superior/elite (does not include lights, dragoons or artillery)
• There must be at least 6 Bases of Foot Battle Troops per Base of Heavy or Medium Artillery.
• Heavy or Medium Artillery may not be deployed so that they could shoot into the flank sectors (the outer 12 MU of the table).
• Captured artillery can be removed in the JAP phase.

3 hours 20 mins plus a 1-10 min(s) variable

Friday 13:00 - 16:30, 17:30 - 21:00
Saturday 09:00-12:30, 13:30-17:00
Sunday 08:00-11:30, 12:30-16:00

List Checker and Umpire

The list checker and umpire is Simon LeRay-Meyer, the.urban.bunny@gmail.com List Deadline: 5th August

http://www.tabletoptournaments.net/be/t ... g-r&type=t




Please sent any comments or questions to : worlds2016bel@gmail.com

Thanks Simon
Denis

So,

we have six players registered so far.

Lets see if we can get some more!

Belgium beer, nuff said!

I'll register next week once Saumur is over.
cheers
jim

We are up to eight players!

Hi Simon,

I'm a little annoyed with the tournament rules regarding the army lists limitation.
Often the army list books propose more superior cavalry than average and the minima for the cavalry is only on the sup, for instance, the army list I would like to play is focused on infantry but has 8 superior cavalry minimum and no obligation for the average cav, it leads to have 4 mounted BG minimum and to an unbalanced army list (comparing to the one I'm used to play) !!
Could it be possible to say that the minimum in the army list is for all mounted BG average or superior. It would mitigate this restriction and help us to consider much more potential armies.

I hope to be clear enough (which is not obvious even in french...)

Thank you to comment,
Fabrice.

i agree with Fabrice. Normally tournaments like the worlds are open book without many other restrictions.
The army I had intended to use has also fallen foul of this in and I would have preferred this to be in bases.
As my army was going to have 2 x 2 Hvy Sup P/p and 1 x 4 Ave Sup p/p. Now I cannot use it even though on a base count I would have as much Average as Superior.

cheers
JIm

The thème is the same for alls. Ok, je
Denis

Hi everyone,

what my intent was with the limitations is to stop the mass superior armies (of which I have been guilty of).

In the UK, we've started moving more to having more average based competitions, which gives you something to attack rather facing a wall of superior troops.

We've seen the rise of the Imperial Spanish armies with 2 Elite foot, 2 Heavy Armour Cuirassiers and 5 superior foot, which is rather over the top. Yes, Jim, I'm looking at you.

Would you prefer a slight change to the restrictions and the army cannot have more than 50% of the battle groups being superior/elite troops?

This allows you to choose what you want to be superior, but, you still have to have some average troops on the table.

Simon

Hi,

Just to be clear, I'm happy with the limitations you proposed. The end goal is reasonable. I already faced twice Jim's army...and it was painful

What I'm trying to say is just that the army list books are not always written in that spirit and we need some arrangements to make feasible (and usable) our favorite army list .

The new wording (the army cannot have more than 50% of the battle groups being superior/elite troops) should allow much more flexibility (it allows the army I intend to chose)

Thanks Simon,
Fabrice.

Morning Simon,

Happy with that tweak......Would have loved that army you described if it was possible but I make no apology for my 2 Elite and 3 Superior foot plus friends which was in response to the mass Superior horsey armies led by the likes of you. I also like the army for other reasons but its not the only army I have used.

See you soon
Jim

here are the rules for the comp updated 4/7/2016

Comp rules

The rules to be used are FOG: RENAISSANCE. See the Slitherine forum for the latest errata

The Competition is 15mm.

The list submitted must not exceed 800 points.

Theme : Open Book
• 800 points maximum
• No more than 50% of the army can be superior/elite (does not include lights, dragoons or artillery)
• There must be at least 6 Bases of Foot Battle Troops per Base of Heavy or Medium Artillery.
• Heavy or Medium Artillery may not be deployed so that they could shoot into the flank sectors (the outer 12 MU of the table).
• Captured artillery can be removed in the JAP phase.

3 hours 20 mins plus a 1-10 min(s) variable

Friday 13:00 - 16:30, 17:30 - 21:00
Saturday 09:00-12:30, 13:30-17:00
Sunday 08:00-11:30, 12:30-16:00

List Checker and Umpire

The list checker and umpire is Simon LeRay-Meyer, the.urban.bunny@gmail.com List Deadline: 5th August

https://www.tabletoptournaments.net/t3_ ... ?tid=16701

Please sent any comments or questions to : worlds2016bel@gmail.com

gibby wrote:Morning Simon,

Happy with that tweak......Would have loved that army you described if it was possible but I make no apology for my 2 Elite and 3 Superior foot plus friends which was in response to the mass Superior horsey armies led by the likes of you. I also like the army for other reasons but its not the only army I have used.

See you soon
Jim

Yup, I know the mass superior horsey armies are a bit gamey, which is why I've started using more combined arms style armies.

So many armies to buy and paint up.

And you should make an apology for that scary Spanish army, it's horrid to face!

See you at Britcon, you up for a beer or two?

Simon

Interestingly the last two FOG R World Championships were won using a mainly average army.
It is the quality of the general rather than the troops that win.
Alasdair used a heavy cavalry army at the BHGS Challenge which could only be 50% superior and he beat every army easily.

So the solution is to allow no more than 50% of Alasdair to participate...?

But the current World Champion is Ben who uses TYW French. Not much superior in that other than Ben.

You may want to say LF, (and possibly LH, Dragoons) and Artillery are not included in the calculation.

Always happy to have a beer with you Simon.But no apology.
cheers
Jim

Hi Ben,

thanks for spotting that, I should be been more explicit (other than my usual swearing)

I have updated the rules

Simon,

I may have missed it but are we using imperial or metric measuring systems.

Bob