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Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 2:29 pm
by sn0wball
RVallant wrote:Spotting heroes need to be restricted to recon units tbh.
No! Spotting heroes are very interesting on tac bombers, fighters or tanks, to make recon units unnecessary. And with Soviet Corps, even (self-propelled) artillery units can benefit from a spotting heroe.
Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:30 pm
by goose_2
sn0wball wrote:RVallant wrote:Spotting heroes need to be restricted to recon units tbh.
No! Spotting heroes are very interesting on tac bombers, fighters or tanks, to make recon units unnecessary. And with Soviet Corps, even (self-propelled) artillery units can benefit from a spotting heroe.
A spotting hero on artillery is as useless as tits on a boar
Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 7:49 pm
by captainjack
Spotty artillery can at least shoot at things it can see. When something has just wiped out the unit protecting your gun, you can see what did it and take a shot before running for safety - and with a reduced chance of ambush on your way out.
In contrast, initiative on an Italian tac bomber has no use whatsoever (OK, possibly some use if you are attacked by biplanes).
Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:12 pm
by sn0wball
goose_2 wrote:sn0wball wrote:RVallant wrote:Spotting heroes need to be restricted to recon units tbh.
No! Spotting heroes are very interesting on tac bombers, fighters or tanks, to make recon units unnecessary. And with Soviet Corps, even (self-propelled) artillery units can benefit from a spotting heroe.
A spotting hero on artillery is as useless as tits on a boar
I hadn´t considered this before, but I don´t see what´s wrong with that.
Bovine preferences aside, I had Spotting Heroes on Soviet artillery of the SU and ISU series, which, in AT mode, easily double as a decent tank and therefore make use of a decent spotting range.
Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 8:24 pm
by goose_2
Help me understand this. Spotting heros?
Do you guys play with undo off?
I play MP that way but not the regular game, am I missing out on some awesome form of realism?
I just seem to use my inf and tanks to be my forward units that is enough spotting for me, especially with Albert Kerscher. Spotting heros always leave me going.
Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:12 am
by edahl1980
captainjack wrote:The hero is allocated randomly, so the only behaviour of your unit that is considered is the total number of kills, since this is what triggers award of a hero. The only exception is for special units which are created with heroes. But even with these, once they get enough kills to be awarded an extra hero, the hero is randomly assigned and has nothing to do with the unit's past.
The fact that the hero generator is completely random is why, even when you have just had five spotting heroes on your artillery, the chances of getting another spotting hero is still 1 in 5. I had this disappointing experience in Kaiserschlact last time round, followed by a single +2 attack and then two more spotting heroes on infantry units.
What is the chanse of getting a movement og range hero?
Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:22 am
by edahl1980
RVallant wrote:Spotting heroes need to be restricted to recon units tbh.
I like them on fighter planes, tanks, infantry....
Ive had fighter planes with +2 spotting, they are good for scouting+killing.
Personally i would like the option to transfer heroes from one unit to another. Move them to a poll. Of course, a unit must have a hero, to trade and get a hero.
Re: How are attributes of heros calculated?
Posted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 9:28 am
by edahl1980
Any spotting hero i get on artillery pre-41 is likely to be transfered to the newly formed StuG batallion just before Barbarossa kicks off.
Movable 3 star pillboxes+close support artillery with a spotting hero isnt that bad.