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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:42 pm
by neilhammond
I'd be interested in Helsinki if there was FOG. I'm not interesting in going for DBM. However, at this stage I can't commit as a definite.

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 7:59 pm
by nikgaukroger
peterrjohnston wrote:
Well, if the IWC was to be opened-up to more periods/rulesets, surely the current state of flux in ancients is an ideal time to start? :)

Rgds,
Peter
I would think so.

I'd also prefer to see a FoG World Championship under the IWF banner than be a separate event, however, I'd bet that if the IWF don't embrace it early then Osprey & Slitherine will set something up and I don't think that would be good for maintaining and growing an international wargaming community in the wider sense.

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:43 pm
by jdm
Pete

This thread should probably get cross posted to the main list.

Regards
JDM

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 11:58 pm
by bddbrown
So, reading through the posts be have:

Pete Dalby
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:42 am
by jlopez
jdm wrote:
dvorkin wrote:Hi

I think french players would come if a fog tournament is organized.
I'll be present.

Dvorkin
Hi Divorkin

Can you post to the french forum to guage interest there. Anyone speak Spanish :)

JDM
JD,

Will post on the Spanish forum.

Julian

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:18 am
by nikgaukroger
bddbrown wrote:So, reading through the posts be have:

Pete Dalby
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)
I think Hammy, Terry and maybe Si are also in the "interested but cannot commit" category - fairly certain they would only go for FoG though.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:03 am
by carlos
I can't commit either, but I'd be interested as well.

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:17 am
by davidandlynda
We've already entered so we are going,it just deciding by end of December
David

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:28 pm
by dave_r
I would want to play FoG

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:42 pm
by nikgaukroger
Would you go if FoG wasn't on offer?

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:44 pm
by terrys
I think Hammy, Terry and maybe Si are also in the "interested but cannot commit" category - fairly certain they would only go for FoG though.
I'll be happy to go - but only for FoG

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:05 pm
by rayfredjohn
nikgaukroger wrote:Would you go if FoG wasn't on offer?

No I wouldn't.

Ray

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:42 pm
by bddbrown
Pete Dalby
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)

Terry Shaw
David Ruddock (maybe instead of DBM)

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:44 am
by madaxeman
bddbrown wrote:Pete Dalby
Ray Duggins
Bruce Brown
Andy Ellis
Ian McNeil
Bob Amey (volenteered)
David Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Linda Fairhurst (maybe instead of DBM)
Nik Gaukroger (interested but cannot commit)
Neil Hammond (interested but cannot commit)

Terry Shaw
David Ruddock (maybe instead of DBM)
No disrespect to any of the worthies on this list, but everyone here is, ahem, a Brit. Seems a long way to go to play other Brits from this list whilst drinking expensive beer, a couple of weeks after playing what is sure to be almost exactly the same set of people in Ascot. Probaby with the same armies if DBM experience is anything to go by...

I've no intention of going to play DBM either - but I think I would only be tempted to go for FoG if there was the prospect of a truly international set of competitors so I may get to play different people playing in different ways. I'm not sure how possible thats going to be this time around given publication dates etc....

Maybe one for next year instead - whereever that is going to be?

(Or Osprey/FoG does some sort of tie-up with FoW and launches a "pretty rule book World Championships" held at another place and time :twisted: )

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:54 am
by hammy
madaxeman wrote:No disrespect to any of the worthies on this list, but everyone here is, ahem, a Brit. Seems a long way to go to play other Brits from this list whilst drinking expensive beer, a couple of weeks after playing what is sure to be almost exactly the same set of people in Ascot. Probaby with the same armies if DBM experience is anything to go by...

I've no intention of going to play DBM either - but I think I would only be tempted to go for FoG if there was the prospect of a truly international set of competitors so I may get to play different people playing in different ways. I'm not sure how possible thats going to be this time around given publication dates etc....

Maybe one for next year instead - whereever that is going to be?

(Or Osprey/FoG does some sort of tie-up with FoW and launches a "pretty rule book World Championships" held at another place and time :twisted: )
At the moment there are similar threads in the French and Spanish forums but as my grasp of the language is well poor I can't be sure what they are saying. I think that there is some interest in both countries.

The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:57 am
by terrys
The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?
Perhaps you should ask this question on the DBMList

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:02 pm
by hammy
terrys wrote:
The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?
Perhaps you should ask this question on the DBMList
Asking it here is IMO risky enough. If I ask it on the DBM list then I will be accused of all sorts of neffarious plans :roll:

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:14 pm
by nikgaukroger
hammy wrote:
At the moment there are similar threads in the French and Spanish forums but as my grasp of the language is well poor I can't be sure what they are saying. I think that there is some interest in both countries.
Some in France, little in Spain I think - use Babelfish to translate some posts :)

hammy wrote:
The real issue is that if there is not a FoG comp in Helsinki who will go to play DBM anyway?
That'd be the 20/30 people (to date) listed on the Helsinki website ...

Lets not get silly about this, there will be a large DBM comp at Helsinki, maybe not the largest IWF ever but still a good sized comp - and IMO it'll be bigger than FoG should there be a FoG comp.

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:37 pm
by dave_r
nikgaukroger wrote:
Would you go if FoG wasn't on offer?
Don't know. Maybe. Given that I am not playing any DBM at the club and the maximum number of future comps I am doing is one (i.e. Helsinki maybe) then I would make more of an effort to play FoG than DBM.

Are they offering DBMM at Helsinki?

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:46 pm
by jlopez
I suspect you will get two or three French players and few if any Spanish players (44 views of my post, no volunteers...).

Bear in mind that the average wage in Spain is somewhere around 10.000 GBP per year. A trip abroad, Finland in particular, is prohibitively expensive for the majority of players. I, for one, can't afford it.

Julian