Slitherine

jwcaruso wrote:In game sliders are maxed. All other games etc are playing sound on my PC, and it is playing system sounds, so I don't think it is a Windows mixer issue. Just in case, I maxed the sliders there, and still no sounds. Sorry, I too wish it was something that simple, but I don't think it will be. I have been researching the Windows MCI, and don't really think I understand it enough to reinstall or update that.

Still check the windows mixer please. In Windows 7 you can set different sounds volume for different applications in there. So for example all your system sounds and other applications may have sound at proper level but Panzer Corps still can be muted at same time. To be honest i don't really think it will be this but better safe then sorry, especially as checking this take around 30 sec.

Actually, I have already thought about that Tarrak. Some sound cards drivers have more volume settings than the general control volume.
The last time I took a look at Creative drivers was too many years ago when I ditch my Audigy card and made the solemn promise of never buying again another Creative card. But I cannot imagine that there's a specific control volume for Windows MCI applications in Creative drivers. Although it's something that jwcaruso should probably check (perhaps a hidden control), just in case.

About Windows MCI, that's something that you don't install, as it comes natively installed in Windows. It's a legacy API.

Download Process Explorer:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysi ... 96653.aspx
Run Process Explorer. Run the game and during the AI turn it would be great if you could press "ALT"+"TAB" and in File menu on Process Explorer select save as to generate a "Procexp.txt" file.
Please post that file here.
Let's see if there's anything that we can spot.

Well it's not even for the MCI it's directly for different applications: See the attached screenshot:

Thanks, Tarrak.
I guess I've always messed more with realtek drivers and control volumes than the W7 native ones.

Tarrak, the slider for Panzer Corps was at 50%, and even maxing it created no sounds. Sorry, great thought, but didn't work.

I downloaded two programs to further look at codecs. G-spot and Codec tweak tool. The latter lets me generate all kinds of logs and information about installed codecs. I just don't know enough to interpret them. Any specific ones I should look for information on? Also, now that I have unistalled the old codec packs, many videos not playing sound in WMP or DiVX player. That is kind of expected I guess.

Here is log from Process Explorer: Definitely during AI movement phase

Process CPU Private Bytes Working Set PID Description Company Name
System Idle Process 93.24 0 K 24 K 0
System 0.34 200 K 1,588 K 4
Interrupts 0.21 0 K 0 K n/a Hardware Interrupts and DPCs
smss.exe 928 K 1,596 K 408
csrss.exe < 0.01 3,220 K 6,088 K 512
wininit.exe 3,248 K 6,464 K 604
services.exe < 0.01 9,808 K 15,940 K 736
svchost.exe < 0.01 8,108 K 13,708 K 872 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
CTxfispi.exe 10,764 K 11,860 K 5116 SPI (Creative X-Fi Module) Creative Technology Ltd
wfcrun32.exe < 0.01 3,624 K 10,224 K 4288 Citrix Citrix Systems, Inc.
WmiPrvSE.exe 0.02 14,072 K 22,220 K 5728
PrintIsolationHost.exe 0.01 6,672 K 10,724 K 5820
dllhost.exe 4,356 K 8,788 K 3152
SCServer.exe 4,368 K 8,348 K 3128 Microsoft Search Client Server Microsoft Corporation
FlashUtil32_11_6_602_180_ActiveX.exe 3,904 K 8,748 K 8836 Adobe® Flash® Player Installer/Uninstaller 11.6 r602 Adobe Systems Incorporated
dllhost.exe 3,944 K 7,648 K 5160 COM Surrogate Microsoft Corporation
nvvsvc.exe 5,204 K 9,896 K 944 NVIDIA Driver Helper Service, Version 314.22 NVIDIA Corporation
nvxdsync.exe 14,292 K 24,868 K 1568
nvtray.exe 13,064 K 19,480 K 3320 NVIDIA Settings NVIDIA Corporation
nvvsvc.exe < 0.01 9,560 K 16,812 K 1576
nvSCPAPISvr.exe 3,192 K 6,408 K 976 Stereo Vision Control Panel API Server NVIDIA Corporation
svchost.exe < 0.01 8,164 K 12,144 K 184 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
MsMpEng.exe 0.05 81,648 K 80,204 K 612 Antimalware Service Executable Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe < 0.01 24,896 K 29,412 K 896 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
audiodg.exe 0.39 19,392 K 20,168 K 7112
svchost.exe 0.03 203,220 K 213,300 K 524 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
dwm.exe 0.16 38,812 K 84,172 K 2748 Desktop Window Manager Microsoft Corporation
WUDFHost.exe 3,164 K 7,316 K 6540
WUDFHost.exe 4,744 K 10,164 K 6892
WUDFHost.exe < 0.01 5,740 K 11,436 K 7008
svchost.exe < 0.01 15,384 K 23,928 K 1032 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 0.04 44,508 K 58,732 K 1068 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
taskeng.exe 3,820 K 7,400 K 8900
CTAudSvc.exe 1,548 K 4,580 K 1196 Creative Audio Service Creative Technology Ltd
svchost.exe < 0.01 20,868 K 21,412 K 1364 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
spoolsv.exe 0.08 66,808 K 76,592 K 1748 Spooler SubSystem App Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 14,292 K 17,528 K 1820 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
armsvc.exe 1,440 K 4,132 K 1932 Adobe Acrobat Update Service Adobe Systems Incorporated
AppleMobileDeviceService.exe < 0.01 3,960 K 10,252 K 2036 MobileDeviceService Apple Inc.
mDNSResponder.exe 3,468 K 6,960 K 1376 Bonjour Service Apple Inc.
DatamngrCoordinator.exe 7,432 K 11,132 K 1780 Datamngr Coordinator Koyote-Lab Inc.
svchost.exe < 0.01 13,060 K 19,580 K 1464 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
HPLaserJetService.exe < 0.01 34,868 K 6,340 K 1440 HP LaserJet Service HP
HPClientServices.exe 8,580 K 15,480 K 1044 HP Client Services Hewlett-Packard Company
Verizon_IHAMessageCenter.exe < 0.01 49,044 K 49,572 K 1792 IHA_MessageCenter Verizon
CommandService.exe 2,016 K 5,468 K 2656 CommandService Application LeapFrog Enterprises, Inc.
taskhost.exe 8,972 K 16,584 K 2676 Host Process for Windows Tasks Microsoft Corporation
WMPSideShowGadget.exe < 0.01 14,172 K 25,020 K 3156 Windows Media Player Gadget for Windows SideShow capable devices Microsoft Corporation
wmplayer.exe 0.04 213,692 K 220,880 K 6212 Windows Media Player Microsoft Corporation
LSSrvc.exe 1,772 K 4,736 K 2888 LightScribe Service Hewlett-Packard Company
svchost.exe 2,172 K 4,648 K 2488 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 2,276 K 4,724 K 3512 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
RNowSvc.exe 3,148 K 5,748 K 3556 Windows Service App Roxio
SeaPort.exe 4,420 K 9,312 K 3616 Microsoft SeaPort Search Enhancement Broker Microsoft Corporation
sftvsa.exe 1,968 K 5,348 K 3020 Microsoft Application Virtualization Virtual Service Agent Microsoft Corporation
sprtsvc.exe 8,332 K 1,872 K 3588 SupportSoft Agent Service SupportSoft, Inc.
svchost.exe 17,848 K 14,100 K 3944 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
TeamViewer_Service.exe < 0.01 5,492 K 13,104 K 4172 TeamViewer 8 TeamViewer GmbH
taskhost.exe 13,256 K 16,456 K 4424
tgsrvc.exe 3,212 K 7,868 K 4516 SupportSoft Repair Service SupportSoft, Inc.
ExtensionUpdaterService.exe 0.02 10,908 K 5,440 K 4592
WLIDSVC.EXE < 0.01 10,320 K 19,136 K 4940
WLIDSVCM.EXE 2,716 K 4,788 K 3712
YahooAUService.exe 4,936 K 10,392 K 5600 AutoUpater Service Module Yahoo! Inc.
Y2Desktop.Updater.exe < 0.01 15,720 K 14,040 K 4588 Y2Desktop.Updater Microsoft
sftlist.exe 6,600 K 13,708 K 5280 Microsoft Application Virtualization Client Service Microsoft Corporation
CVHSVC.EXE 5,388 K 10,620 K 5504
NisSrv.exe < 0.01 11,764 K 5,024 K 5136 Microsoft Network Realtime Inspection Service Microsoft Corporation
iPodService.exe < 0.01 5,176 K 9,460 K 5544 iPodService Module (64-bit) Apple Inc.
SearchIndexer.exe < 0.01 48,672 K 30,776 K 5564 Microsoft Windows Search Indexer Microsoft Corporation
SearchProtocolHost.exe < 0.01 4,336 K 9,816 K 8248
SearchFilterHost.exe 5,828 K 9,616 K 7492
svchost.exe 6,056 K 10,880 K 6244 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 3,520 K 6,928 K 6324 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
wmpnetwk.exe < 0.01 22,400 K 16,444 K 6652 Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service Microsoft Corporation
svchost.exe 17,520 K 20,396 K 7532 Host Process for Windows Services Microsoft Corporation
HPSA_Service.exe < 0.01 33,076 K 24,256 K 1636 HP Support Assistant Service Hewlett-Packard Company
IAStorDataMgrSvc.exe < 0.01 23,368 K 20,776 K 5324 IAStorDataSvc Intel Corporation
IntuitUpdateService.exe 21,396 K 6,456 K 2020 Intuit Update Service Intuit Inc.
IntuitUpdateService.exe 37,468 K 1,844 K 4400 Intuit Update Service Intuit Inc.
mozybackup.exe < 0.01 16,800 K 25,500 K 1652 MozyHome Service bootstrapper Mozy, Inc.
mozybackup.exe < 0.01 6,952 K 11,312 K 6360
daemonu.exe < 0.01 5,816 K 11,720 K 7152 NVIDIA Settings Update Manager NVIDIA Corporation
lsass.exe 0.07 14,596 K 21,696 K 744 Local Security Authority Process Microsoft Corporation
lsm.exe < 0.01 3,844 K 5,532 K 756
csrss.exe 0.05 4,140 K 12,716 K 624
winlogon.exe 5,324 K 9,732 K 676
explorer.exe 0.01 79,988 K 111,304 K 2852 Windows Explorer Microsoft Corporation
hpsysdrv.exe 1,532 K 4,548 K 2436 hpsysdrv Hewlett-Packard
SmartMenu.exe 19,640 K 23,920 K 2444 SmartMenu
LCore.exe < 0.01 49,868 K 48,420 K 2572 Logitech Gaming Framework Logitech Inc.
LCDClock.exe 0.01 7,992 K 13,032 K 3400 Logitech LCD Clock/Performance Monitor Logitech Inc.
WrtMon.exe < 0.01 2,556 K 6,988 K 2548 NsWrtMon Microsoft Base Class Application
WrtProc.exe 0.01 2,044 K 5,812 K 2180 NsWrtProc Microsoft Base Clase Application
wmdc.exe 4,232 K 8,712 K 2600 Windows Mobile Device Center Microsoft Corporation
BJMYPRT.EXE 4,216 K 7,756 K 2396 Canon My Printer CANON INC.
msseces.exe 8,932 K 18,464 K 2304 Microsoft Security Client User Interface Microsoft Corporation
ZuneLauncher.exe 3,548 K 6,372 K 3088 Zune Auto-Launcher Microsoft Corporation
YontooDesktop.exe < 0.01 36,508 K 34,752 K 3488 Yontoo Desktop Yontoo LLC
mozystat.exe < 0.01 14,904 K 22,652 K 3784 MozyHome Status Application Mozy, Inc.
Dropbox.exe 0.01 55,140 K 62,632 K 3932 Dropbox Dropbox, Inc.
ONENOTEM.EXE 1,572 K 1,332 K 3960 Microsoft OneNote Quick Launcher Microsoft Corporation
iexplore.exe 0.01 15,076 K 37,904 K 4344 Internet Explorer Microsoft Corporation
iexplore.exe 0.07 148,280 K 171,672 K 8700 Internet Explorer Microsoft Corporation
procexp.exe 3,432 K 9,032 K 8588 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals -
procexp64.exe 0.82 37,096 K 56,120 K 8256 Sysinternals Process Explorer Sysinternals -
autorun.exe 0.10 12,052 K 16,392 K 5848
PanzerCorps.exe 4.13 530,032 K 536,124 K 8808
VolPanlu.exe < 0.01 14,228 K 18,024 K 3332 VolPanlu.exe Creative Technology Ltd
IAStorIcon.exe < 0.01 29,756 K 27,436 K 2108 IAStorIcon Intel Corporation
hpwuschd2.exe 1,608 K 4,708 K 3116 hpwuSchd Application Hewlett-Packard
sprtcmd.exe 18,768 K 2,384 K 3696 SupportSoft, Inc.
HPTLBXFX.exe 0.02 47,036 K 11,080 K 3776 HPTLBXFX Hewlett-Packard Company
CNMNSUT.EXE < 0.01 2,604 K 6,816 K 4132 Canon IJ Network Scan Utility CANON INC.
concentr.exe 2,672 K 7,440 K 4308 Citrix online plug-in Connection Center Citrix Systems, Inc.
Monitor.exe 2,988 K 10,144 K 4792 Monitor Application LeapFrog Enterprises, Inc.
iTunesHelper.exe < 0.01 4,896 K 12,500 K 5000 iTunesHelper Apple Inc.
jusched.exe 1,984 K 5,188 K 5024 Java(TM) Update Scheduler Sun Microsystems, Inc.
DatamngrUI.exe 3,248 K 8,504 K 4580
Ctxfihlp.exe 4,300 K 10,108 K 4560 CTXfiHlp MFC Application Creative Technology Ltd
DivXUpdate.exe < 0.01 9,724 K 20,100 K 4716 DivX Update
mswinext.exe 0.03 32,444 K 54,252 K 5232 Bing Bar Microsoft Corp.

Also tried to post log of Codec Tweak Tool, but forum wont let me saying it it "too spamy" and to remove URLs. There are no URLs to remove, just file locations, and I really cant remove those without rendering log useless

I've checked your log, and all I can say is that you've a lot of processes running in the background. I haven't seen one that I could say definitely that's the one.
One of those processes might be the culprit, but I cannot say which one is.

I wouldn't mess with the codecs, jwcaruso. That's a techsavvy area, and I could only help if I was close to the computer or able to reproduce the issue on my side, which I can't, specially because of the big number of non native processes running in your Windows.

Have you checked Creative Volume Panel? Or have you checked Windows Volume panel?

jwcaruso wrote:Also tried to post log of Codec Tweak Tool, but forum wont let me saying it it "too spamy" and to remove URLs. There are no URLs to remove, just file locations, and I really cant remove those without rendering log useless

jwcaruso, you could try to copy/paste the log into a text document, and than pack this text file to a .zip archive. The forum won't let you attach .doc files but you can attach small .zip files to your posts.

Good luck in solving the issue.

I checked both volume panels. Both maxed with no sound from this game, and sounds from online games and other system sounds are fine, so that is not the issue.
I can attach the codec log if helpful, but will need to do that later as I am not at PC now. Is text file as suggested fine?

You can post the codec log file, although I don't believe we won't be able to identify which one is the culprit. The problem might not even be related with the codecs themselves, but how they are configured.

You could try a different approach. There was an utility named Game Booster, that would help you configure your Windows and disable temporarily unessential processes when you want to play a game.
The utility was mainly used for increasing performance, as cutting processes would release more memory. However this could help you in the case your issue is caused by a direct conflict.
Razer bought the utility, adapted to recent Windows and it's distributing it freely. I've never tried it myself, but I suppose you could give it a try.
http://www.razerzone.com/gamebooster
I don't know if this will help in your situation or not, as I'm not able to pinpoint a cause.
This may also be one of the cases that only a fresh Windows installation may help.

OK, I probably don't do enough fresh installs anyway, and would like to get rid of all the excess stuff on my PC. It is a couple years old at this point. I guess if I am thinking of a clean install, I should also think about Windows 8 as an option. Has this game been tried with that OS yet?

Yes, it's working on Windows 8.
I would think twice on Windows 8. There are certain things that I like in Windows 8, but... it isn't much different than Windows 7, and at least you have a Start bar.

I just talked with my friend who assists me with this higher level stuff, and he agrees with you on Win8. We will reinstall 7 and let you know if there are persistent issues.
Thanks

Yes, please.
Install and play the game before installing any audio/Video codecs.

Not a chance of any codecs installed before trying this game, then I will add one at a time to see if I can figure out which "pack" is the problem, doing system restores if need be to get rid of any problem ones. Just looking forward to a clean install again. As you saw, too much junk on this machine.

jwcaruso wrote:Not a chance of any codecs installed before trying this game, then I will add one at a time to see if I can figure out which "pack" is the problem, doing system restores if need be to get rid of any problem ones. Just looking forward to a clean install again. As you saw, too much junk on this machine.

That K-lite pack that I previously mentioned, usually don't break Windows MCI. That's why I told you to download that one.

The fresh Windows 7 install did the trick. The sound and music are great by the way, definitely worth the time to get it fixed. Thanks for all the help. System restore point set. Lets hope I don't have to use it!

JWC