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Re: rant

Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:52 am
by Polkovnik
Not much of a rant but I don't see any cause for a rant anyway - as far as I've seen, all of his many questions have been answered with patience and tolerance. Much more so than deserved in many cases, as most of the questions he has asked could be answered by simply reading the rules. Few if any were about tricky points of the rules.

Re: rant

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 1:03 pm
by dugroz
grahambriggs wrote: I think so - both from near Andover in Hampshire. I think the problem was he didn't have a group of players sufficiently near to be workable for him. And I do think this is a difficult rule set to pick up without more experienced players to talk you through it - as indeed most rule sets of any complexity are. A shame, as we need all the new players we can get.

Unfortunately the initial entry barriers to this hobby (cost, complexity, time for games, painting needed) are high and the learning curve can be steep.
I can strongly second that motion. I was someone who got into FoG complete of my own volition by looking up info online. My only opponent is either myself or one buddy (whom I teach). I had no one to mentor me when I came into v. 1 almost exactly 2 years ago (I was late to the party). I have asked questions in the past, where I tried in earnest to look up the rule and failed; then, after someone says, "it's right on page x," I realize how obvious it is, but still missed it.

I haven't bought v.2 yet ( :oops: ) but I'm sure when I do I'll have more questions!

Re: rant

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 4:24 pm
by spike
dugroz wrote:
grahambriggs wrote: I think so - both from near Andover in Hampshire. I think the problem was he didn't have a group of players sufficiently near to be workable for him. And I do think this is a difficult rule set to pick up without more experienced players to talk you through it - as indeed most rule sets of any complexity are. A shame, as we need all the new players we can get.

Unfortunately the initial entry barriers to this hobby (cost, complexity, time for games, painting needed) are high and the learning curve can be steep.
I can strongly second that motion. I was someone who got into FoG complete of my own volition by looking up info online. My only opponent is either myself or one buddy (whom I teach). I had no one to mentor me when I came into v. 1 almost exactly 2 years ago (I was late to the party). I have asked questions in the past, where I tried in earnest to look up the rule and failed; then, after someone says, "it's right on page x," I realize how obvious it is, but still missed it.

I haven't bought v.2 yet ( :oops: ) but I'm sure when I do I'll have more questions!
I recomend v.2 it's has been an improvement over v.1 All I add is look at the forum dedicated to the problems with the e version. Its lack of search is a significant handicap, and is why I for one wanted a book.

Keep sending in questions, as long as there sensible questions, people will give you an answer- ( I can't vouch for the quality from some respondants :twisted: )

Re: rant

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 5:25 pm
by petedalby
Grandad - aka Steve - is still with us.

He's now in touch with the Farnborough Club and benefiting from seeing the game played and with the opportunity to ask questions.

I think it is incumbent on us all to support anyone who is interested in FoG.

He lives in Andover and if anyone in that part of the world wants to get in touch with him I'm sure he'd be delighted to hear from you.

Re: rant

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:02 pm
by dave_r
petedalby wrote:Grandad - aka Steve - is still with us.

He's now in touch with the Farnborough Club and benefiting from seeing the game played and with the opportunity to ask questions.

I think it is incumbent on us all to support anyone who is interested in FoG.

He lives in Andover and if anyone in that part of the world wants to get in touch with him I'm sure he'd be delighted to hear from you.
Excellent - nice one Pete.

As long as you don't corrupt Steve with all that FoG(R) nonsense he'll be fine.

Re: rant

Posted: Wed May 08, 2013 6:47 pm
by petedalby
I think I've probably messed myself up with FoGR - whoever gets to play me in round 1 at MK this weekend is probably in for a very easy time. Must remember I am allowed to deploy foot within 12" of the side edge.

Re: rant

Posted: Thu May 09, 2013 9:22 am
by grahambriggs
petedalby wrote:Grandad - aka Steve - is still with us.

He's now in touch with the Farnborough Club and benefiting from seeing the game played and with the opportunity to ask questions.

I think it is incumbent on us all to support anyone who is interested in FoG.

He lives in Andover and if anyone in that part of the world wants to get in touch with him I'm sure he'd be delighted to hear from you.
Good to hear that Pete - I was worried that he'd given up.

Re: rant

Posted: Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:55 pm
by mungocallow
i am sure that Grandad aka steve now visits the Wessex wargames society in Colbury on the edge of Southampton now. He visits the club forum frequently and asks lots of questions and is forever posting questions, a lot of the time in the wrong place unfortunately