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Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:31 pm
by peterrjohnston
nikgaukroger wrote:
philqw78 wrote:
Hopefully none of the lists will be changed using the 'new' rules as publication method.

It appears likely that some changes from the beta will remain when v2 is published - such as the Superior warbands and the LH option for Byzantine koursores.
Including gutting Dailami or no?

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:33 pm
by nikgaukroger
peterrjohnston wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote:
philqw78 wrote:
Hopefully none of the lists will be changed using the 'new' rules as publication method.

It appears likely that some changes from the beta will remain when v2 is published - such as the Superior warbands and the LH option for Byzantine koursores.
Including gutting Dailami or no?

Garlic munchers will be glad to hear that one has been discarded (I think).

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:14 am
by hazelbark
nikgaukroger wrote: It appears likely that some changes from the beta will remain when v2 is published - such as the Superior warbands and the LH option for Byzantine koursores.
Good news for the barbarian foot.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:52 pm
by Delbruck
hazelbark wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote: It appears likely that some changes from the beta will remain when v2 is published - such as the Superior warbands and the LH option for Byzantine koursores.
Good news for the barbarian foot.
So, what is the story with superior warbands?

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:21 pm
by nikgaukroger
Delbruck wrote:
hazelbark wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote: It appears likely that some changes from the beta will remain when v2 is published - such as the Superior warbands and the LH option for Byzantine koursores.
Good news for the barbarian foot.
So, what is the story with superior warbands?

Some (most?) of the classic warband armies (e.g. Early Germans) will be allowed something like 1/3 of their warband BGs to be Superior.

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:40 pm
by Delbruck
nikgaukroger wrote:
Delbruck wrote:
hazelbark wrote: Good news for the barbarian foot.
So, what is the story with superior warbands?

Some (most?) of the classic warband armies (e.g. Early Germans) will be allowed something like 1/3 of their warband BGs to be Superior.
Will superior Romans still be skilled swordsmen?

Re: The delay in v2 rules affects decision to acquire new ar

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:25 pm
by grahambriggs
philqw78 wrote:
rbodleyscott wrote:Chinese MF are not going to be reclassified as HF.

We have also decided to leave the existing optional MF/HF status for thureophoroi etc and Roman auxilia.
Hoo-f****g-ray
Careful. He hasn't actually said what Chinese MF will be reclassified as :wink:

Re: The delay in v2 rules affects decision to acquire new ar

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:56 pm
by hazelbark
grahambriggs wrote:Careful. He hasn't actually said what Chinese MF will be reclassified as :wink:
Trouble maker. Perhaps they will be reclassified as Knights. :twisted:

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:26 pm
by philqw78
Jaguar or Eagle?

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:12 pm
by marty
D
elbruck wrote:
hazelbark wrote:
nikgaukroger wrote:

It appears likely that some changes from the beta will remain when v2 is published - such as the Superior warbands and the LH option for Byzantine koursores
Good news for the barbarian foot.
So, what is the story with superior warbands?
Some (most?) of the classic warband armies (e.g. Early Germans) will be allowed something like 1/3 of their warband BGs to be Superior.
Hopefully without been restricted to minimum size battlegroups because it doesn't really help if this is the case. I'm not all that interested in using a 6 el warband, superior or not.

Martin

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:14 am
by philqw78
marty wrote:
Hopefully without been restricted to minimum size battlegroups because it doesn't really help if this is the case. I'm not all that interested in using a 6 el warband, superior or not.

Martin
Especially when they end up fighting their favourite enemy at double minus

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:55 am
by PaulByzan
How about the mentioned change of the current half lancer/half bowmen Byzantine cavalry to all lance, bow* for all periods up to the Nikephorian? Makes much more sense.

Paul G


nikgaukroger wrote:
philqw78 wrote:
Hopefully none of the lists will be changed using the 'new' rules as publication method.

It appears likely that some changes from the beta will remain when v2 is published - such as the Superior warbands and the LH option for Byzantine koursores.

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:45 am
by madaxeman
philqw78 wrote:
marty wrote:
Hopefully without been restricted to minimum size battlegroups because it doesn't really help if this is the case. I'm not all that interested in using a 6 el warband, superior or not.

Martin
Especially when they end up fighting their favourite enemy at double minus
Aaaah - but you're not taking into account the "one grade of armour advantage doesn't give a POA when fighting against steady enemy HF" new "Shieldwall" rule... :twisted:

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 11:33 am
by Delbruck
madaxeman wrote:
philqw78 wrote:
marty wrote:
Hopefully without been restricted to minimum size battlegroups because it doesn't really help if this is the case. I'm not all that interested in using a 6 el warband, superior or not.

Martin
Especially when they end up fighting their favourite enemy at double minus
Aaaah - but you're not taking into account the "one grade of armour advantage doesn't give a POA when fighting against steady enemy HF" new "Shieldwall" rule... :twisted:
I like it :D

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 12:50 pm
by ravenflight
madaxeman wrote:
philqw78 wrote:
marty wrote:
Hopefully without been restricted to minimum size battlegroups because it doesn't really help if this is the case. I'm not all that interested in using a 6 el warband, superior or not.

Martin
Especially when they end up fighting their favourite enemy at double minus
Aaaah - but you're not taking into account the "one grade of armour advantage doesn't give a POA when fighting against steady enemy HF" new "Shieldwall" rule... :twisted:
Interesting. I've always thought that 'spears' and 'pikes' should only have armour counted if they are not steady. Their armour is 6' of wood where the enemy can't touch them.

This sounds like it does a similar job.

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:07 pm
by nikgaukroger
It is imaginary though.

I'll leave comments on 6' of wood to Phil ...

Posted: Wed Jan 04, 2012 1:59 pm
by philqw78
I'd be lucky to comment on 6 inches of wood these days.

Re: The delay in v2 rules affects decision to acquire new ar

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2012 10:15 am
by rbodleyscott
Delbruck wrote:For example, if I were doing a Seluk Turk army would cavalry now be more useful than light horse?
Yes

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:13 pm
by IanB3406
Hmmm, Possibly massive rebasing projects as a result.......maybe I'll just make my cav two figs to a stand and light horse one. At least I won't need more figures.

Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:40 am
by rbodleyscott
philqw78 wrote:
marty wrote:
Hopefully without been restricted to minimum size battlegroups because it doesn't really help if this is the case. I'm not all that interested in using a 6 el warband, superior or not.

Martin
Especially when they end up fighting their favourite enemy at double minus
They don't.

And 8s.