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Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 8:16 am
by Morris
Apr 1941
Finally , the lab get some progress .
In Med , the fleet move westward . I suppose he will launch a attack in Med whenever there will be a Babarosa .

Babarosa
Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:52 am
by Morris
Apr 23rd 1941
Since a early fair day is coming & Irac happened a revolt against UK , we launch a early Babarosa .
We also send a small branch to land in Caucasia to get Maikop 's oil . But the main problem is how long will they hold ? Will they be able to hold it until mainbody's coming ?
In Med , UK is coming to Lybia & Revolt happened in Irac .

Babarosa 2
Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2012 8:23 am
by Morris
Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 5:33 am
by Morris
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:00 am
by Morris
June 22nd 1941
Normal progress . We found plenty of Soviet troops in the South . My landing troops was cut off supply & waiting for their last minute .
In Med , Topruk fall

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Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:51 am
by Crazygunner1
Morris...you have put yourself in a very difficult situation in the north near Leningrad. If Joe isn´t rusty he will advance north with that corp defending Leningrad to capture Joensuu. Rail in a few more corps to secure it then the turn after cut supply to your troops advancing on Petrozavodsk.
Your finish fighter could even be in trouble
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:32 pm
by Morris
Crazygunner1 wrote:Morris...you have put yourself in a very difficult situation in the north near Leningrad. If Joe isn´t rusty he will advance north with that corp defending Leningrad to capture Joensuu. Rail in a few more corps to secure it then the turn after cut supply to your troops advancing on Petrozavodsk.
Your finish fighter could even be in trouble
Thanks your advise ! but he seems does not have enough troops to accomplish your mission . He is concentrating in defense his oil field !
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:43 pm
by Crazygunner1
Morris wrote:Crazygunner1 wrote:Morris...you have put yourself in a very difficult situation in the north near Leningrad. If Joe isn´t rusty he will advance north with that corp defending Leningrad to capture Joensuu. Rail in a few more corps to secure it then the turn after cut supply to your troops advancing on Petrozavodsk.
Your finish fighter could even be in trouble
Thanks your advise ! but he seems does not have enough troops to accomplish your mission . He is concentrating in defense his oil field !
Hopefully that will be true...but he only needs 3corps and perhaps a GAR for a couple of turns....that should do it. If i were him that would be the main proprity right now. Just the chance of destroying atleast 4 corps is tempting enough.
Anyway...there is a chance that he will miss the opportunity since he needs to move an air unit to get surveilance and actually discover this opening. He doensn´t see what we are seeing
Crazyg
Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:50 pm
by Morris
Crazygunner1 wrote:Morris wrote:Crazygunner1 wrote:Morris...you have put yourself in a very difficult situation in the north near Leningrad. If Joe isn´t rusty he will advance north with that corp defending Leningrad to capture Joensuu. Rail in a few more corps to secure it then the turn after cut supply to your troops advancing on Petrozavodsk.
Your finish fighter could even be in trouble
Thanks your advise ! but he seems does not have enough troops to accomplish your mission . He is concentrating in defense his oil field !
Hopefully that will be true...but he only needs 3corps and perhaps a GAR for a couple of turns....that should do it. If i were him that would be the main proprity right now. Just the chance of destroying atleast 4 corps is tempting enough.
Anyway...there is a chance that he will miss the opportunity since he needs to move an air unit to get surveilance and actually discover this opening. He doensn´t see what we are seeing
Crazyg
But the present USSR troops are still in orange colour . If they transported by train they would lose another 10 effective points. So then my troops will come back and attack them . They will suffer terrible loss maybe including Leningrad .
Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:41 am
by Morris
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 1:44 pm
by Morris
Aug 1 1941
This is really a black turn for Axis ! An unexcepted disaster happened in the North . The Russians occupy Joensuu and destroy the Finnish air force. With most of Finland troops by Petrozavodsk, I was very surprised that Finland signed the armistice! I guess it's because I still did not take Talinn (in Estonia) and with Joensuu reach the 2 cities required, or I had less than 6 Axis units in Finland ? but I don't understand why Finland will be out only by losing a no production city like Joensuu ? Finland troops were attacking & moving into Russia .(Crazygunner were so right ! But I did not listen to his advise !) However ,I never thought this was a problem related to Finland's out !
Only one good news in the south of Russia , we made a huge breakthrough which Russia would not able to fix it . We will go to Oilfield & Stalingrad in 1941 !
BTW ,The landing forces are finally wiped out. It looks like it's just the time with the Germans knocking on Rostov's doorstep.

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:50 pm
by Kragdob
Morris wrote:Aug 1 1941
This is really a black turn for Axis ! An unexcepted disaster happened in the North . The Russians occupy Joensuu and destroy the Finnish air force. With most of Finland troops by Petrozavodsk, I was very surprised that Finland signed the armistice! I guess it's because I still did not take Talinn (in Estonia) and with Joensuu reach the 2 cities required, or I had less than 6 Axis units in Finland ? but I don't understand why Finland will be out only by losing a no production city like Joensuu ? Finland troops were attacking & moving into Russia .(Crazygunner were so right ! But I did not listen to his advise !) However ,I never thought this was a problem related to Finland's out !
Strange - in my other game as Soviets I had captured 2 Finland cities: Joensuu and Vaasa + I keep Tallin (Germans never took it) and Finns do not surrender. There are no German units in the country. What is the surrendeer condition then???
Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 3:00 pm
by PionUrpo
Kragdob wrote:Morris wrote:Aug 1 1941
This is really a black turn for Axis ! An unexcepted disaster happened in the North . The Russians occupy Joensuu and destroy the Finnish air force. With most of Finland troops by Petrozavodsk, I was very surprised that Finland signed the armistice! I guess it's because I still did not take Talinn (in Estonia) and with Joensuu reach the 2 cities required, or I had less than 6 Axis units in Finland ? but I don't understand why Finland will be out only by losing a no production city like Joensuu ? Finland troops were attacking & moving into Russia .(Crazygunner were so right ! But I did not listen to his advise !) However ,I never thought this was a problem related to Finland's out !
Strange - in my other game as Soviets I had captured 2 Finland cities: Joensuu and Vaasa + I keep Tallin (Germans never took it) and Finns do not surrender. There are no German units in the country. What is the surrendeer condition then???
It's 2 cities and <6 Axis units in Finland.
Actually, what happened here was in reality one of the greatest fears of the Finnish High Command during the early stages of the war (well, with a variation). We kept significant presense on the Kannas so Soviets couldn't strike to Finnish heartland (the variation here, it would be toward Helsinki instead of Joensuu but the fort isn't takeable in-game until later so...) until the Germans were close to Leningrad. Only then were additional forces released for the offensive to Eastern Karelia.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 2:00 am
by Morris
PionUrpo wrote:Kragdob wrote:Morris wrote:Aug 1 1941
This is really a black turn for Axis ! An unexcepted disaster happened in the North . The Russians occupy Joensuu and destroy the Finnish air force. With most of Finland troops by Petrozavodsk, I was very surprised that Finland signed the armistice! I guess it's because I still did not take Talinn (in Estonia) and with Joensuu reach the 2 cities required, or I had less than 6 Axis units in Finland ? but I don't understand why Finland will be out only by losing a no production city like Joensuu ? Finland troops were attacking & moving into Russia .(Crazygunner were so right ! But I did not listen to his advise !) However ,I never thought this was a problem related to Finland's out !
Strange - in my other game as Soviets I had captured 2 Finland cities: Joensuu and Vaasa + I keep Tallin (Germans never took it) and Finns do not surrender. There are no German units in the country. What is the surrendeer condition then???
It's 2 cities and <6 Axis units in Finland.
Actually, what happened here was in reality one of the greatest fears of the Finnish High Command during the early stages of the war (well, with a variation). We kept significant presense on the Kannas so Soviets couldn't strike to Finnish heartland (the variation here, it would be toward Helsinki instead of Joensuu but the fort isn't takeable in-game until later so...) until the Germans were close to Leningrad. Only then were additional forces released for the offensive to Eastern Karelia.
It is 2 cities & <6 Axis units in Finland Or 2 cities or <6 Axis unit in Finland
If It is "or " , Does it mean even if Joe did not take Jonesuu , The Finland would still out of war since most of their troops were out of Finland ? If so , It really not make sense .
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:24 am
by PionUrpo
Morris wrote:PionUrpo wrote:Kragdob wrote:
Strange - in my other game as Soviets I had captured 2 Finland cities: Joensuu and Vaasa + I keep Tallin (Germans never took it) and Finns do not surrender. There are no German units in the country. What is the surrendeer condition then???
It's 2 cities and <6 Axis units in Finland.
Actually, what happened here was in reality one of the greatest fears of the Finnish High Command during the early stages of the war (well, with a variation). We kept significant presense on the Kannas so Soviets couldn't strike to Finnish heartland (the variation here, it would be toward Helsinki instead of Joensuu but the fort isn't takeable in-game until later so...) until the Germans were close to Leningrad. Only then were additional forces released for the offensive to Eastern Karelia.
It is 2 cities & <6 Axis units in Finland Or 2 cities or <6 Axis unit in Finland
If It is "or " , Does it mean even if Joe did not take Jonesuu , The Finland would still out of war since most of their troops were out of Finland ? If so , It really not make sense .
"And"
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:59 am
by Morris
If it is "and " , Why only Jonesuu fall ,Finland was out ?
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:02 am
by PionUrpo
Morris wrote:If it is "and " , Why only Jonesuu fall ,Finland was out ?
Soviets still had Tallinn right? That makes the 2 required cities then.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:47 am
by Morris
PionUrpo wrote:Morris wrote:If it is "and " , Why only Jonesuu fall ,Finland was out ?
Soviets still had Tallinn right? That makes the 2 required cities then.
Is Tallinn count as Finland city ? It is the capital of Estonia !
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:32 am
by PionUrpo
Morris wrote:PionUrpo wrote:Morris wrote:If it is "and " , Why only Jonesuu fall ,Finland was out ?
Soviets still had Tallinn right? That makes the 2 required cities then.
Is Tallinn count as Finland city ? It is the capital of Estonia !
Yep, in '41 it doesn't make much sense but the Armistice rule is meant to be a late-game event when the Red Army should be on it's way to west.
In reality, one of the reasons Finnish leaders were hesitant of a separate peace with the Soviets was because the Germans retained a presense in Estonia. They were afraid that, in the event of a separate peace, the Germans might retaliate or even launch an invasion, against southern Finland using the forces stationed in Estonia.
Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:02 am
by Morris
Aug 21st 1941
After the disaster of Finland , Axis troops keep moving forward to their victory . We took Bryansk in the north , we also took Stalingrad & Rostov in the south . We accomplish the Stalingrad mission in 1941 which They did not made it in 1942 . Next turn we will go to the oilfield .
