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Soviet Siberian infantry units
Finish, Soviet and German Ski units

When a unit gets a hero, some visual cue on the unit that allows you to know that the unit has an "enhanced" ability or "attribute".

How about 2 new infantry classes? Mortar crews and AT grenadiers. Mortar crews would have a range of 1 and could attack adjacent units without return fire plus can cause suppression (similar to a StuG). They would have higher SA value than typical infantry (maybe a SA of 7 or 8 and HA of 3; till the increase in a '43 version). They could even have the defensive support feature like artillery. The AT grenadiers would have higher HA and basically have opposite stats of the mortar crew (SA of 3 and HA of 7 or 8 ). They would be armed with Panzerfausts and have good initiative against hard targets (maybe also giving them the anti-fortress bonus that pioneers and fallschirmjager have).

What I would really like to see, is the IS-3.

Horse Drawn transport

Can you add actual profiles of navel vessels like BB classes Nelson, Ramilies, King Georgr V, Bismark, Iowa; BCs Hood, Renown, Repulse, Schornhorst; Ger Pocket BBs Deutchland; etc.?

What are the size of the units? I had assumed Regiments/Brigades. What sixe are the hexes?

AceDuceTrey wrote:What are the size of the units? I had assumed Regiments/Brigades. What sixe are the hexes?

Welcome to the forums, Major.
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Belgian units in 1940:

T-15 tank (Vickers-Carden-Loyd 6 ton light tank model 1934 )
T-13 tank destroyer
ACG-1 tank (A.M.C. Renault type A.C.G.1 Mle. 35)

or here: http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/bel/Belgium.htm

Units i would like to see added to PC:

Infantry
- SE Pioniers

Tanks
- US: M6 Heavy Tank
- US: T28 Super Heavy Tank
- GB: Tortoise (A39) Heavy Assault Tank
- Panzerkampfwagen V (Sd.Kfz. 171) 7,5cm KwK L/100 Panther II / F Schmalturm

Artillery
+ Railway gun
- 21 cm K 12 (E) or 31 cm K 5 gl (E) // super long range
- 38 cm SIEGFRIED K (E)
+ StuG (Assault gun)
- Sturmpanzer IV (SdKfz. 166) Brummbär - 15cm StuH. 43 L/12
- Sturmpanzer VI - 38 cm Mörser R.W.61 "Sturmtiger"
+ Rockets
- 15 cm Nb.W. 42 auf 2t Maultier (SdKfz. 4/1) / Panzerwerfer 42 auf SWS

Tactical Recon
- Panzerspähwagen Sd.Kfz. 234/3 - 7,5cm StuK. L/24

Strategic Recon
- Ju 88 D / H / T
- Ju 388 L
- Arado Ar 234 B-1 / C-4
- Focke-Wulf Fw 189 Uhu

Tactical Bomber
+ Torpedo Bomber
- Ju 88 A-17
- He 111 J
+ Fighter Bomber
- Do 335
- Horten Ho 229 (= Gotha Go 229)

Strategic Bomber
- Ju 388 K
- Ju 287

Anti Aircraft
+ Railway
- 12,8 cm Flak 40
+ Panzerflak (AA Tanks)
- Flakpanzer Kugelblitz - 3 cm Flakzwilling 103/38
+ FlaRak (SAM)
- Henschel Hs 117 Schmetterling
- Wasserfall
- Rheintochter
- Enzian

That's a Christmas list, Some1?

I want :

Custom Sdkfz 11 built with :

1. Engineer bay - which can combine 2 resting unit into a single unit ( like the DAK did in Afrika, they put the 88mm AA on top of Pz III chasis )
2. Poisonous gas barrier layer ( using Sdkfz 11/2 )
thus we have also biological warfare which they can initiate by laying down some poison / massive weapons that can carried away by wind or being brought by soldier and infected an area haha...

terry out..

Panther II, for the USA invasion scenarios.

I need no units - can produce all by my self ! What we need are more features - an activ Mine laying feature or possible animations for all unit movements. And many many more !!!
The game PC is on stage 1 - I need stage 10 !

H.Balck

VPaulus wrote:That's a Christmas list, Some1?

Sort of, but i doubt that the complete set of extensions to PC will have been released before christmas

I assume that only limited developer manpower is/will be available for adding new units to the game/expansions, and that this will translate in a limited number of new units.
So instead of wasting precious manpower on units which are just more of the same, i would rather see units which are:

• - filling a 'gap' in the list of already available units
  - increasing the amount of tactical possibilities
  - being 'iconic'/'unique'/'ahead of their time'

I had something like this already in the back of my mind when i created my christmas-list, nevertheless i will review it and also try to explain my reasoning for adding the choosen units.

Updated 'Christmas wishlist' - Part 1

Transports

• BMM 'Vollkettenaufklarer 38(t)' 'Kätzchen' (APC)
  - Fully tracked, able to keep up with tanks in mud/rough terrain
  - Considerably increased armor compared to SdKfz 250/251 (front/sides/rear[mm] 50/30/20 vs. 12/7/7?)
  - Very high road speed (64 km/h), highest cruising range (600km)
  => 1944 prototype, 1945/1946 replacement for Sd.Kfz. 250/251, can be added with the same rational as the Maus

Tanks

• US: T26E1-1 "Super Pershing"
  - T15E1 90 mm gun (L/73)
  - Additional frontal armor compared to M26
  => March 1945 experimental tank, up-gunned and up-armored to combat the TigerII

Anti-Tank - Tank Destroyer (TDs)

• US: T28 Super Heavy Tank / 105 mm Gun Motor Carriage T95
  - Originally designed to fight fortifications, similar to the 'Sturmtiger'
  - '105 mm T5E1 gun' (L/65), compared to the Sturmtiger strong against mobile targets, weak against static targets
  - Most heavily armored (up to 305 mm), sloped design
  - Very low road speed (13 km/h), low cruising range (160km)
  => 1945/1946 experimental super heavy tank destroyer able to combat super heavy tanks (=> SecretService 'mouser' )
  
  GB: Tortoise (A39) Heavy Assault Tank
  - Originally designed to fight fortifications, similar to the 'Sturmtiger'
  - 'Ordnance QF 32 pounder' 3.7in (~93,98mm) L/65(?) gun, compared to the 'Sturmtiger' strong against mobile targets, weak against static targets
  - Very heavy armored (up to 228 mm)
  - Very low road speed (19 km/h), low cruising range (140km)
  - Additional small turret with twin machine guns, so the CD/SA value should be improved compared to other TDs
  => 1945/1946 experimental heavy tank destroyer, most likely comparable to 'Jgd.Pz. Elefant'

Artillery - Railway guns

• 21 cm K 12 (E)
  - Highest range early war (115km)
  - Medium Payload (HE shell 108 kg / ? kg expl.), low rate of fire (6/h)
  => Highest range gun early war (1940/41), relative small shell
  
  31 cm K 5 gl (E)
  - Smooth bore, uses 'Peenemünder Pfeilgeschoss' ('31cm SprGr 4861')
  - Highest range (151 km), medium payload (HE shell 136kg / 25kg expl.)
  => 1944 replacement for the '21 cm K 12 (E)', rate of fire most likely similar to '28 cm K5'
  
  38 cm SIEGFRIED K (E)
  - Heaviest caliber gun which could still use 'standard' railway tracks (besides the Adolf guns)
  - Basicly the same gun as in the Battleship Bismark but with a lower rate of fire (38cm SK C/34, RoF: 120/h)
  - Heavy Payload (HE shell 495kg / 69kg expl.), high range (55,7 km), rate of fire : 10/h (compared to 15 of the 28cm K5)
  => 1943 replacement for the 1940 '28cm K5 (E)'

Artillery - Assault guns

• Sturmpanzer IV / StuPz. 43 (SdKfz. 166) "Brummbär"/"Stupa" - 15cm StuH. 43 L/12
  - Heavy assault gun (15cm StuH. 43 L/12), same ammo as s.I.G. 43 (HE shell 38kg)
  - Heavily armored (up to 100mm)
  - Medium road speed (40 km/h), but highest cruising range (130-210km)
  => 1944 replacement for the 'StuIG 33 B' and 'Sturmpanzer I Bison'
  
  Sturmpanzer VI - Sturmmörserwagen 606/4 - 38 cm Mörser R.W.61 "Sturmtiger"
  - Super heavy assault gun (38/R.W.61 Rocket Mortar), range 5.6 km, low ammunition (13 shells)
  - Devasting against low-mobility targets (HE shell '38cm RSprGr 4581' 345kg / 125 kg expl.)
  - Devasting against static hard targets (Shaped-Charge shell '38cm RHlGr 4582' 351 kg, pierces 2.5 m reinforced concrete)
  - Most heavily armored German StuG (up to 150mm)
  - Medium road speed (40 km/h), but lowest cruising range (85-120km)
  => 1944 Fortkiller

Recon - Ground

• Panzerspähwagen Sd.Kfz. 234/3
  - 7,5cm StuK. L/24, same armament as used in Sd.Kfz. 233
  - Sd.Kfz 234 series replaces all older 8 wheel recons
  - Armor of up to 30mm
  - Highest range (up to 600km), road speed up to 85 km/h,
  => 1944 Replacement for the 1941 Sd.Kfz. 233 7,5cm StuK L/24

Recon - Air (Not supported in PC 1.0.x)

• Focke-Wulf Fw 189 A Uhu "Fliegendes Auge"
  - Short-range reconnaissance aircraft
  - Highly maneuverable
  - Speed up to 357 km/h, cruising range up to 670 km, service ceiling up to 8400 m
  - Ground attack capable (four 50 kg bombs)
  => 1940 reconnaissance aircraft, relative high AD due to high maneuverability
  
  Ju 88 D
  - Long range photo-reconnaissanc aircraft
  - Speed up to 460-510 km/h, cruising range up to 5000 km, service ceiling up to 7500-9000m
  - No ground attack capability(?)
  => 1940 reconnaissance aircraft, relative high GD due to service ceiling
  
  Ju 188 F-1/2
  - Long range, high altitude photo reconnaissance aircraft
  - Speed up to 525 km/h, cruising range more than 2200 km, service ceiling up to 10100 m
  - No ground attack capability
  => 1943 replacement for 1940 Ju 88
  => Might not be worth the effort to add this unit to the game
  
  Ju 388 L-1
  - Long range, high altitude photo reconnaissance aircraft
  - Speed up to 616+25 km/h, cruising range more than 2200 km, service ceiling up to 13440 m
  - No ground attack capability
  => 1944 replacement for 1943 Ju 188, high GD due to high service ceiling
  => Mostly inferior to Ar 234k, useful if a cheap update from Ju 188 / Ju 88 is possible
  
  Arado Ar 234 B-1
  - First operative jet powered reconnaissance aircraft
  - Medium-range, very high speed, high altitude photo reconnaissance aircraft
  - Speed up to 742 km/h, cruising range up to 1400 km, service ceiling up to 12000 m
  - No ground attack capability
  => 1944 reconnaissance aircraft, high GD due to high service ceiling, very high AD due to speed

Strategic Bomber

• Ju 388 K-1
  - High-altitude bomber
  - Up to 3,000 kg bombload, compared to 6000-7200kg of a He 177
  - Speed up to 616-25 km/h, cruising range up to 2200 km, service ceiling up to 13440 m
  => 1944 strategic bomber, high GD due to high service ceiling, half the ground attack of a He 177
  => Useful if a cheap update from Ju 188/ Ju 88 is possible
  
  Ju 287-V2 (OKB-1/Junkers EF-131)
  - Swept-forward wing, jet powered bomber
  - 2,000 kg to 4,000 kg bombload (details in Polish language see http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str407.htm)
  - Speed up to 860-970 km/h, cruising range up to 1,710 km, service ceiling up to 11100-12500 m
  => 1945/46 experimental high speed bomber, can be added with the same rational as the Maus

Updated 'Christmas wishlist' - Part 2

Infantry

• SE Pioniere
  - Missing SE variant of 'Pioniere'
  - Only battalion size, similar to the Wehrmacht 'Brückenpioniere'
  
  SE Pioniere 43
  - Missing SE variant of 'Pioniere 43'
  - Only battalion size, similar to the Wehrmacht 'Brückenpioniere'
  
  SE Fallschirmjäger 43
  - Missing SE variant of 'Fallschirmjäger 43'
  - There were no 'SE Fallschirmjäger 39', as the only SS-Fallschirmjägerbataillon was created 1943
  - Only battalion size, similar to the Wehrmacht 'Brückenpioniere'

Tanks

• Panzerkampfwagen V (Sd.Kfz. 171) Panther Ausf. F (Schmalturm)
  - Panther I-F and not Panther II, as the Panther II development was frozen (but most likely has influenced the (paper tank) E50)
  - 7,5 cm KwK 42/1 L/70 => same SA and HA values as the other Panthers
  - Decreased turret frontal plate area and more flat angle => smaller target => Increased GD
  - Using 'Topfblende' style gun mantle increases armor (100->150 mm) and removes shot trap (grenade bounces of the frontal turret armor and penetrates the hull top) => Increased GD
  - Increased turret front, side and rear armor (100->120, 45->60, 40->60 mm) => Increased GD
  - Increased turret roof armor (16->40 mm) => Increased AD
  - Increased minimum armor of the hull top (16->25 mm) => Slightly increased AD
  - Stereoscopic rangefinder => Increased first hit propability => Increased initiative
  - Close-in defense weapon "Nahverteidigungswaffe" in the hull roof (for 90mm NbK 39, but also allows use of pistol HE-frag grenades against surrounding infantry) => Increased CD
  - (Machine)Pistol port in the back of the turret => Slightly increased CD
  - Anti Aircraft machine gun mount in the commander cupola => AD of -1
  - Night fighting capability
  
  => 1945/1946 evolution of the Panther, can be added with the same rational as the Maus
  
  Source: "Die deutschen Panzer 1926-1945", F.M.v. Senger und Etterlin
  Source: "Panther Medium Tank 1942-45", Stephen Hart, Jim Laurier
  Source: "Panzer Tracts No.5-4", T.L.Jentz, H.L.Doyle

Artillery - Assault guns

• StuG III-G 1944
  - Remote controlled MG replaces roof mounted MG => Increased CD
  - Using 'Topfblende' style gun mantle provides better ballistic protection => Slightly increased GD
  - Coax MG added to gun mantle => Increased SA
  - Close-in defense weapon "Nahverteidigungswaffe" in the hull roof (for 90mm NbK 39, but also allows use of pistol HE-frag grenades against surrounding infantry) => Increased CD
  => 1944 and last evolution of the StuG III

class 0 Kriegsmarine
1 US M-29
2 Ger 234/3 & 234/4
4 Brumbar
5 Colion (2x37mm)
8 Carrier based A/C (CVGs), e.g., Fulmar/Kingfisher, Me109N/Ju87; Wildcat/Dauntless; etc.
Naval patrol/amphibs

Just two for my wish list:

1. If you are going to have a desert campaign in North Africa, can you put in the Long Range Desert Group for the British? I'm not sure if you would call it a recon unit or a special forces unit. Probably a combination of the two.

2. Can you have a naval event before the North African landings? Just a chance to showcase the naval forces of Britain, Germany, Italy and France. Maybe make the outcome determine where/how each side starts in North Africa?

Oh, and a pony.

Since someone already mentioned the FW189 and that was a recon plane.
How about the Stork? Fi156.
A recon plane. Give it perhaps radarlike spotting?