Slitherine

hazelbark wrote:RBS thank you.
What did you have 4 TCs?
Why no Determined Horse? I would think this is a potential anecdote to some of the other moutend around.
I tend to be in the less artillery camp, why do you like the 2nd BG of Heavys?
No regimental guns? I tend to like these especially in the superior. You do not favor?

4 TCs.

The army composition is not ideal, but I wanted the date of my army to be as late as possible (for reasons unrelated to efficiency). I would have preferred to have used a slightly earlier army with Heavily Armoured cuirassiers.

No need for an expensive antidote to enemy mounted when you have commanded shot. The Horse cuirassiers in this army are exceptional value and as good as anything else when deployed with commanded shot. The only reason I had that one BG as unarmoured DH (rather than Carbine horse) was because I had some points left and nothing else I could spend it on. It deluded me that they might be able to hold a BG of Alasdair's Horse cuirassiers that had sneaked past my main cavalry/commanded shot formation, but they were swept away in short order.

The Heavy Artillery are there as an antidote to massed enemy MArt - deploy your whole army out of range of MArt and take potshots at the enemy army with HArt from out of range - it forces them to attack and their artillery may never get to shoot in the entire game. The artillery caused almost no casualties on the enemy during the course of the tournament, but had a massive effect on their actions.

I am unconvinced about the value of regimental guns because, although they increase firepower, they do not increase resilience. I prefer more troops.

I would also note that Unarmoured Carbine horse are very good value as supports.

Here is Ben and my army list.

We took a GC and 3 TCs.

1 Petits Vieux Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. 4
1 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 2
1 4-pounder gun Reg Gun Average Reg Gun 1
2 Petits Vieux Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. 4
2 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 2
2 4-pounder gun Reg Gun Average Reg Gun 1
3 Petits Vieux Infantry MF Unarmoured Average Musket'* Impact Ft. 4
3 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 2
4 Dragoons Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 2
5 Dragoons Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 2
6 Swedish Dragoons Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 2
7 Swedish Dragoons Dragoon Unarmoured Average Musket 2
8 Swedish Infantry Regiment MF Unarmoured Average Musket 4
8 HF Unarmoured Average Pike Pike 2
8 Battalion gun Reg Gun Average Reg Gun 1
9 Swedish Infantry Regiment MF Unarmoured Superior Musket 4
9 HF Unarmoured Superior Pike Pike 2
9 Battalion gun Reg Gun Superior Reg Gun 1
10 Swedish demi-cuirassiers Dt Horse Armoured Superior Pistol Pistol 4
11 Swedish Infantry Regiment MF Unarmoured Superior Musket 6
11 Battalion gun Reg Gun Superior Reg Gun 1
12 Gendames Horse Armoured Average Pistol Pistol 4
13 Guard Infantry MF Unarmoured Superior Musket'* Impact Ft. 4
13 HF Armoured Superior Pike Pike 2
13 4-pounder gun Reg Gun Superior Reg Gun 1
14 Guard Infantry MF Unarmoured Superior Musket'* Impact Ft. 4
14 HF Armoured Superior Pike Pike 2
14 4-pounder gun Reg Gun Superior Reg Gun 1
15 Artillery Artillery Average Hvy Art 2

How did the GC work for you?

I have heard a consensus that GCs aren't worth it as most BGs are breaking from losses. My games seem to reinforce that.

A GC is pretty useful if you havebig units who get frequently shot at on their way into combat though!

madaxeman wrote:A GC is pretty useful if you havebig units who get frequently shot at on their way into combat though!

Like Average early Tercios?

VERY useful for the Swiss - the Beta list did not allow GC, published does. I also think that Later 30YW French, and 30YW Swedes would want them. Basically anything that is not going to stand and fire fight, which is going to want to move large Divisions to get across the table quick, and which is going to want it's foot to charge the enemy mounted wants a GC. If you are a foot army with weak horse you certainly want one against armies like Poles, else you end up fighting on a Billiard table too often.

GC are also handy if your army has lots of 2 base BGs.

We certainly found the GC to be useful in a doubles army.

I normally only use a FC or a TC in my 800 point singles army.

But has already been said if you are going to face a lot of shooting then a GC is very beneficial.

Bob

hazelbark wrote:

madaxeman wrote:A GC is pretty useful if you havebig units who get frequently shot at on their way into combat though!

Like Average early Tercios?

Naked* Swiss Kiels


("Naked" being the all new FoG:R euphemism for "unprotected")