Slitherine

Too true Paul. Sadly, my dice are pretty reliably poor. But even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

Kevin

I believe the phrase is ' Jesus loves you, but the dice think you suck ? '

Here are the results of our Open Tournament at Cold Wars with some provisos.
1) The event was 4 games, take your best score from three games.
2) Due to time conflicts, some players were not able to play all 4 games, I have recorded their scores, but only the players who played at least three live opponents
were eligible to "win" the tournament.
3) Players were allowed to play in either 15mm or 25mm scale. In most cases these were the same armies, but in one match-up the 25mm army of one player was not the same as his 15mm army.
4) One player played the same army in three bounds and then changed his army to a different one for round 4!
5) Two newbie players changed their army lists from day one to day two.
This was an experimental tournament format, some things we will keep for Historicon, some things we won't.

Here are the Players, their armies, and points:

Players with 3-4 live games:
Mike Kelley, Early 30YW German Catholic, 50.8 points
Jim Tobin, Transylvanian 30YW (in 15mm) Irish Confederate (in 25mm) 48.0 points
Kevin Swanson, ECW Parlimentarians, 47.4 points
Walt Leach, Scots Covenanters, 44.0 points
Dave Rey, Huguenots/30YW French, 40.5 points
Dave Guinn, 30YW Early Swedes, 33.0 points
Dave Lamb 30YW Later German 30.6 points

Paul Woolerton, Later Hapsburg Austria (1590s) 51.9 points (two live games and 20 points awarded for a no show opponent)
Bob Nedwich, ECW Later Royalists 28.1 (dropped two games when we had odd numbers)
Mike Zakowski, Polish Commonwealth 9.1 points (played two games)
Simon Babbs, 30YW Later German, 1.7 points (played two games)

Paul's 20 points if repeated with a live opponent would have gotten him first place. That was Paul's game#2, however Paul, although very pissed off, did come back and play again on Saturday morning.

I have to turn in a schedule for the Historicon PEL by April 15th. Please forward suggestions to this discussion, I do read it. I can't make everyone happy, but I will try to have stuff running Thursday/Friday/Saturday

Cheers Bob N

Just echoing the concern about the Theme tournament. I'd love to see an Open instead. I'm painting my first FOG-R army (ECW Royalist) and was looking forward to playing at Historicon.

Cheers,
joseph

It would be nice if one stand alone event could be arranged on Thursday. I'd like to participate and also play in the AM tournaments.

How many people will commit to play in a FoGR Open Tournament if the games conflict with the FoG AM Tournament? I can't create a schedule to suit just a few people. There are around a dozen committed Renaissance gamers who play regardless of what other tournaments are being played and these people are my primary concern, they have been gaming this period since 1996 and show up. If you tell me to schedule a tournament and it conflicts with AM, and it might, will you skip FoGR? I have to give Scott Holder my event schedule no later than April 15th for the PEL. Maybe Marc will comment as to what the FOG AM schedule will be so we can make something beneficial for both players. The Doubles Tournament is out this time but will be scheduled next summer, so we will have an Open with an Early Theme and WOR Theme (basically brackets), running at the same time. So keep on painting and see you at Historicon.

Bob

I will be running FoG:AM on Friday and Saturday (a Theme and an Open). I would like to play FoG:R on Thursday, if there will be an event (and I can get an army painted in time). If not, I will run another FoG:AM on Thursday. I might do it anyway, as I think I can run an AM event while playing in an R event. Although trying to keep the subtle rules differences straight might make my brain explode.

Marc

If there is a stand alone Fog-R on Thursday I would definitely play, but I'm committed to AM on Friday. If there was a FOG-R stand alone on Saturday I don't know which I'd choose.

Can you not just have one day that is only (R) and one only (A&M) ?

I think we are proposing that Thursday, at least, be solely FOG-R, unless there is a hue and cry to run some sort of AM thing. I've talked to a number of folks who usually play AM (Marc, Hazlebark, Ethan) all of whom were interested in trying out FOG-R on Thursday.

I was hopping to play in the FOG-A/M open and the FOG-R open... Hopfully they are on seperate days... I would skip a FOG-AM theme to play R open... Wow.. lol... Alot of FOG.. FOG-A/M= AM? FOG-R Ren? Then next year we will have FOG-N. By the end of the decade Historcon will have to be a week long to get all the games played.

iversonjm wrote:I think we are proposing that Thursday, at least, be solely FOG-R, unless there is a hue and cry to run some sort of AM thing. I've talked to a number of folks who usually play AM (Marc, Hazlebark, Ethan) all of whom were interested in trying out FOG-R on Thursday.

I think a few of us went to (R) to avoid them !

Scrumpy wrote:

iversonjm wrote:I think we are proposing that Thursday, at least, be solely FOG-R, unless there is a hue and cry to run some sort of AM thing. I've talked to a number of folks who usually play AM (Marc, Hazlebark, Ethan) all of whom were interested in trying out FOG-R on Thursday.

I think a few of us went to (R) to avoid them !

We will chase you down wherever you go!

Marc

Scrumpy wrote:

iversonjm wrote:I think we are proposing that Thursday, at least, be solely FOG-R, unless there is a hue and cry to run some sort of AM thing. I've talked to a number of folks who usually play AM (Marc, Hazlebark, Ethan) all of whom were interested in trying out FOG-R on Thursday.

I think a few of us went to (R) to avoid them !

I'm feeling unloved.

Ok, ok, Matt too....

Scrumpy wrote:

iversonjm wrote:I think we are proposing that Thursday, at least, be solely FOG-R, unless there is a hue and cry to run some sort of AM thing. I've talked to a number of folks who usually play AM (Marc, Hazlebark, Ethan) all of whom were interested in trying out FOG-R on Thursday.

I think a few of us went to (R) to avoid them !

You just prefer it weekly at the shop instead of quarterly at the con.

One idea I had would be to offer an open at both A&M & R where people have say so many chances to play their games over 3 days. Their best 3 scores count towards the final total. That way people could opt to play both and know over the course of the 3 days they could easily fit some games in.

Dan, one time I beat you you moved lock, stock & barrel to Arizona. It saves you a fortune in removal fees to let you win rather than force another interstate migration.