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Countries join by a certain date, it is automatic.

Okay thanks. So I guess Italy can't join until 1940 and the USSR and US until 1941.

syagrius wrote:Okay thanks. So I guess Italy can't join until 1940 and the USSR and US until 1941.

They only join earlier if the enemy attacks it.

Uhhhh......Turkey......Spain ???? And don't forget Greece, Yugoslavia, Portugal, Vichy France, etc. I'm assuming they're neutral?

seamonkey wrote:Uhhhh......Turkey......Spain ???? And don't forget Greece, Yugoslavia, Portugal, Vichy France, etc. I'm assuming they're neutral?

yes, any country I did not list is currently set as "Neutral" meaning any side can DOW them.

I forgot about them because I go with the 3R model where it is simply a guaranteed neutral and the squares are blacked out!

Yes they should be pro-axis!

Other than that I rather agree with your choices as long as the pro-axis join the axis at the appropriate dates (except for Switzerland of course).

Simple but workable. I think some triggers would be better, like linking the Axis Allies to certain DoWs Or Dates, whichever comes first, but either way I think it works.

Do the Allies have their own manpower pools?

vypuero wrote:I forgot about them because I go with the 3R model where it is simply a guaranteed neutral and the squares are blacked out!

Yes they should be pro-axis!

Other than that I rather agree with your choices as long as the pro-axis join the axis at the appropriate dates (except for Switzerland of course).

Simple but workable. I think some triggers would be better, like linking the Axis Allies to certain DoWs Or Dates, whichever comes first, but either way I think it works.

Do the Allies have their own manpower pools?

Manpower is on national basis, meaning France have their frenchies, Germans have their gerries, USA have their yanks, oh I think you get the point

What I meant was do smaller Nations, for example Hungary, have manpower of their own? That way you may build certain units only say in Hungary, and they also will be lost if Hungary surrenders?

vypuero wrote:What I meant was do smaller Nations, for example Hungary, have manpower of their own? That way you may build certain units only say in Hungary, and they also will be lost if Hungary surrenders?

All countries have indicidual manpoer. Someone might look at this and say "Hey, I just exploit this and use Hungarians at the most intense places to compensate for Germany problem ith manpower". Well, this will work initiallyu, but since Hungary has no research, their units will always be at level 0 so that means in later game this will expensive for the german wallet. Reinforcing not only cost manpower but also production and a high tech unit will be more cost efficient.

I somewhat agree with that. Another reason in my mind would be that such units should be eliminated if Hungary surrenders. I think that would be good, and additionally it would be good if such units were limited to certain areas. Can we name our units or will they get names? I think that they should be behind in tech but have some figure less - in other words, the Germans gave their older stuff to their Allies, and so a much lower tech is reasonable, but it should not always be 0. I am not sure how much of this can be implemented, but keep some ideas like that in mind. My concept would be that if the Germans had +3 anti-tank, their allies would be say at +1 - something along those lines.

Call me a bore, but I would much prefer Nato symbols. I find the images look quite nice, but NATO stuff would be better

noakesy wrote:Call me a bore, but I would much prefer Nato symbols. I find the images look quite nice, but NATO stuff would be better

Nato Symbols will be fully supported (but optional) in final version.

Vupuero, it is interesting what you are saying about sharing older equipment to minor nations. Unfortunately it is not possible to integrate at this stage, but please keep these good ideas coming

Though, one good news is, National units always surrender when country surrenders so the Hungarians will surrender if Hungary is conquered by the USSR.

What I meant was that rather than sharing equipment, they could share tech. However, the tech should be lowered for them by 1 or 2 levels. That way as the Axis advances in tech, the Axis Allies would also, but to a lesser degree. That would not require you to share actual equipment or units - it will be easier for me to flesh out my ideas when i see the beta.

I don't know if this has been discussed previously, but is there going to be an option to display land units as counters with standard NATO designations? One of the things that turned me off Strategic Command 2 was its use of 3D symbols of units as if you were playing with little models.

Yes, Nato symbols will be an option in the game.

The game has very clean and nice layout but I was thinking that the menus should be more like files in a folder. Such as a folder opened on the screen and each part of the game from which you control development and technological advancements be pages inside the folder. The menus at the bottom and top of the screen would look nice if they were pieces of metal bolted on.

The Technological tree should be expanded to include more domestic technologies that benefit the general industrial output of your country.

BTW is their the ability to develop rockets in the game?

Their should also be an intricate political where the player can decide domestic, foreign policies set taxes, establish secret police, control industrial output and into which sector to pour that output into most. You get the idea I hope?

Somehow I am finding the map to be a bit blank... More cities and chokepoints would be appreciated...

Overall Great start! Lots of potential.

hi guys, at the outer zoom level there isn't enough space to make lettering like BB, DD etc legible at all. i tried it and it's just a mess so we'll have to go with symbols.

aren't there any military/nato symbols for naval and air units?

kiwusek wrote:The game has very clean and nice layout but I was thinking that the menus should be more like files in a folder. Such as a folder opened on the screen and each part of the game from which you control development and technological advancements be pages inside the folder. The menus at the bottom and top of the screen would look nice if they were pieces of metal bolted on.

hi kiwusek, thanks for the feedback

the themed interface that you've suggested was one option that we were considering at the beginning when working on the art style. that look certainly could have some charm, but we decided to go with a cleaner one; partially for ease of use and partially because many other ww2 games have already adopted a themed interface and we wanted to set ourselves apart somewhat.

makes sense eh?