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Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:22 pm
by nikgaukroger
Without checking too deeply I believe Phil is correct per the rules. How would you argue against it, per the rules ?

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 8:37 pm
by hammy
philqw78 wrote:Image

In this image dark green conforms left as it ends in an overlap position and it is the shortest conform. Light green cannot conform. In the next turn light red would conform. Also by going left (as we view it) as, even though going right is shorter, it would not be in an overlap by going right
I agree, in this situation the dark green does conform to an overlap but it can only do so because the red BG has a frontal opponent.

Where it does however get interesting is that when it comes to the melee phase there is an argument that the dark green BG cannot fight because the melee is fought 'as though conformed' ;)

The initial post in this thread there is no second red BG.

This is not a situation that the attacking player can actually arrange unless the defending player has somehow setup a situation where there are two offset BG for the attacker to be able to charge such that one BG does not conform.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:15 pm
by philqw78
hammy wrote:
philqw78 wrote:Image
This is not a situation that the attacking player can actually arrange unless the defending player has somehow setup a situation where there are two offset BG for the attacker to be able to charge such that one BG does not conform.
Also if there was no light red both green would go left or right.

My intention on the diagram was that the far left light green base is >= half way along the left (as we view it) dark red base so they would both go left if no light red base. Hmph millimetres

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:18 pm
by hazelbark
philqw78 wrote:How is the light red conform a punch in the face? The dark green is odd. But that is what the rules say. I find your stance on this quite odd Dan.
I mis-read your critical caveat. to the left as we see it.


:oops: :oops:
i skipped that part surfing and working. Apologies. I thought you implied it conforms out of cotnact.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:21 pm
by philqw78
hazelbark wrote: :oops: :oops:
Perhaps you should be more careful before offering up Dr Richard's fists :wink:

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:23 pm
by hazelbark
philqw78 wrote:
hazelbark wrote: :oops: :oops:
Perhaps you should be more careful before offering up Dr Richard's fists :wink:
Today was a day. Power outage. Wife travelling. Me stranded with 10-month old. 10-month old food in fridge melting. Clients need help. etc and so forth.
My blood was up and I was not focusing. Usually that's what I enjoy about gaming. It is calming and focusing

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:23 pm
by philqw78
philqw78 wrote:My intention on the diagram was that the far left light green base is >= half way along the left (as we view it) dark red base so they would both go left if no light red base. Hmph millimetres
However if light green went right dark green must also go right as going left would not be an overlap position.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:27 pm
by philqw78
hazelbark wrote:Today was a day. Power outage. Wife travelling. Me stranded with 10-month old. 10-month old food in fridge melting. Clients need help. etc and so forth.
My blood was up and I was not focusing. Usually that's what I enjoy about gaming. It is calming and focusing
Dan you are a bigger man than that. And a bigger man than me. Richard is a bit scrawny tho, so it was a lot less scary than your fists. I hope your day improves. And hope to see you back gaming in the UK soon.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:46 pm
by hazelbark
philqw78 wrote:And hope to see you back gaming in the UK soon.
Afraid next year. Last remaining international this year is Lisbon and the utter destruction of Pete Dalby.

Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:55 pm
by philqw78
If he makes it past canal street next weekend

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 7:10 am
by petedalby
Afraid next year. Last remaining international this year is Lisbon and the utter destruction of Pete Dalby.
Hopefully just my army?

Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 2:51 am
by lawrenceg
hazelbark wrote: 10-month old food in fridge melting.
You should have eaten it up or thrown it out long ago.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:42 pm
by Jilu
So if there is no light green and no light red, darkgreen still conforms only as overlap??


1.- can elements be feeded in the battle?
2.- if no-one does feed can red move in next turn


thx

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:49 pm
by philqw78
Jilu wrote:So if there is no light green and no light red, darkgreen still conforms only as overlap??
No, because if there is no light green then dark green would not be an overlap position, so it must go the its right, making full frontal contact with one base.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:51 pm
by Mehrunes
No, then it conforms to the right, as that would be the only legal position. There is no corner-to-corner overlap if the overlapped base has no enemy to the front.

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:09 pm
by peteratjet
philqw78 wrote:Image

In this image dark green conforms left as it ends in an overlap position and it is the shortest conform. Light green cannot conform. In the next turn light red would conform. Also by going left (as we view it) as, even though going right is shorter, it would not be in an overlap by going right
... going back to the impact phase, which bases fight in the example above? There are two light green bases in contact with the chocolate BG and one dark green, but only two bases can take part. Is it a free choice by the owner?

Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:29 pm
by batesmotel
Yes, it is the owner's choice as to which bases fight in impact it that side has more bases than its opponent.

Chris

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:38 am
by Jilu
if dark green hits dark red in the flank but starting from a position that is not considered in the flank. How does darkgreen conform on darkreds front?

Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 7:43 am
by philqw78
Jilu wrote:if dark green hits dark red in the flank but starting from a position that is not considered in the flank. How does darkgreen conform on darkreds front?
If light green is there it would conform to overlap, if it is not it would conform with one base in full frontal contact and 1 in overlap to left.