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robman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:31 pm (1) Enough with the personal attacks on Kerensky. The Panzer General franchise has always been German-centric: IT'S IN THE TITLE. I thoroughly enjoyed AO '46, even though in this fictional alt-history I would have been on the losing side. I have been fascinated by the Wunderwaffe since I was a child, and it was fun to deploy some of them, especially the landcruisers. Thanks, Kerensky, for your hard and rewarding work!

(2) Better no Pacific DLC than a disappointing one. As others have noted already, there is much possible new content that doesn't require naval operations. And, after all, we have to leave something for PC3! Naval operations are not the only aspect of the game that could benefit from a major upgrade... but that's a topic for another day.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:11 pm And the score is 9 - 0.

euramer wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 7:59 pm Ok it is a deception, but by the way do we know all the real reasons? Is-it simply a limitation of the actual engine or something linked to the development team or the production?

Bee1976 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:58 pm I would assume that the naval battles are the biggest problem. On land you got supply lines, close tiles open tiles, rivers mountains, hills, enttrenchment a lot of stuff that affects strategic decision outside of used units and encountered uitns.
right now you have water as only terrain and units with range and attack values. Thats it. I thin its really hard to create fun naval battles out of this
But thats just my guess

Kerensky wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:48 pm

Bee1976 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:58 pm I would assume that the naval battles are the biggest problem. On land you got supply lines, close tiles open tiles, rivers mountains, hills, enttrenchment a lot of stuff that affects strategic decision outside of used units and encountered uitns.
right now you have water as only terrain and units with range and attack values. Thats it. I thin its really hard to create fun naval battles out of this
But thats just my guess

What I can say is that making Panzer Corps content is insanely hard work. It's grueling, and it's time consuming, and it requires so much more than just 'making money' as a motivation to get the job done. There has to be passion for this sort of thing.

All of these things are not things done easily, simply, cheaply, or quickly. I could go on and on and on, or share the spreadsheets of spreadsheets I prepared to organize 1946, but instead I'll let a picture tell a story. This is what Panzer Corps development really looks like:




Just imagine the time spent sitting, and working, in a chair for it to look like that. The leather is just disintegrating. The plastic so fatigued from use that it was completely broken. You can't pay someone to sit in a chair that much, they have to want to be in that chair.

• Afrika Korps?

• British Campaign?

• American Campaign (Europe)?

• Soviet Campaign?

• German (West) Campaign?

• Micro campaign focused on a specific unit/region (like FSJ, Balkins, Norway, Commando Operations, Japanese land campaign in _______, etc.?

Panzer73 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 3:00 am There haven't been many defense-focused scenarios in the AO series. This is true for the historical path as well, as only half of the scenarios in AO'44 and AO'45 were on the historical path and some of those were focused on counter-attacks and operations to prevent defections of minor Axis nations.

So I would like to stage a fighting retreat across Belgium and France, fight see-saw battles in the desert, return to Europe only to be stymied (Italy) and finally win in the West. And ditto for the Eastern front.

adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:33 am Anyone ready to wager a bet, or vote for which one they would most like to see first?

• Afrika Korps?

• British Campaign?

• American Campaign (Europe)?

• Soviet Campaign?

• German (West) Campaign?

• Micro campaign focused on a specific unit/region (like FSJ, Balkins, Norway, Commando Operations, Japanese land campaign in _______, etc.?

While I have always loved the African theater of operations, I think I'm first ready for an Allied campaign so I can de-Nazify myself after playing all of these pro-Nazi scenarios. I think killing fictional Nazis will, I hope, cleanse my soul.

adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:33 am I'm also disappointed to hear that Pacific General is postponed indefinitely. I think we all could imagine the difficulties from the beginning. It's hard to separate those island battles from any meaningful naval combat and I guess they couldn't figure out a way to make it work in a satisfying way with the current engine.

adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:33 am
I'm saddened by the comments basically calling Kerensky a Nazi Lover. It must be because of his AI created art.
...
While I have always loved the African theater of operations, I think I'm first ready for an Allied campaign so I can de-Nazify myself after playing all of these pro-Nazi scenarios. I think killing fictional Nazis will, I hope, cleanse my soul.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:48 pm

Bee1976 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 8:58 pm I would assume that the naval battles are the biggest problem. On land you got supply lines, close tiles open tiles, rivers mountains, hills, enttrenchment a lot of stuff that affects strategic decision outside of used units and encountered uitns.
right now you have water as only terrain and units with range and attack values. Thats it. I thin its really hard to create fun naval battles out of this
But thats just my guess

Unfortunately, there is no light I can shed on the topic of Pacific. On the one hand, there are things I just can't say about it, and on the other hand, my involvement with Pacific was extremely limited, so I simply don't know the whole story either. This is not a surprise, it's been publicly stated elsewhere that Pacific was a 'different team' after all.

Maybe someday those involved will tell their story about Pacific and what happened...

What I can say is that making Panzer Corps content is insanely hard work. It's grueling, and it's time consuming, and it requires so much more than just 'making money' as a motivation to get the job done. There has to be passion for this sort of thing. No one told me to make 1946 have 30 scenarios, it's something I put forward because I wanted to make the biggest USA invasion campaign that has ever existed in any Panzer General-esque game. The original Panzer General was a single USA scenario, Panzer General 2 had two scenarios, Savannah and Oak Ridge. Panzer Corps had three scenarios, two of which I made by the way, and Panzer Corps 2 retained that tradition with three scenarios on launch.

Well, the spirit of Axis Operations has always been to REALLY deep dive and explore these conflicts in much greater detail, and now we have a giant 1946 campaign with some really wild additions like Atomic AoE weapons and gigantic Landkreuzers stuffed with many special mechanics to make them function uniquely.

All of these things are not things done easily, simply, cheaply, or quickly. I could go on and on and on, or share the spreadsheets of spreadsheets I prepared to organize 1946, but instead I'll let a picture tell a story. This is what Panzer Corps development really looks like:




Just imagine the time spent sitting, and working, in a chair for it to look like that. The leather is just disintegrating. The plastic so fatigued from use that it was completely broken. You can't pay someone to sit in a chair that much, they have to want to be in that chair.

terminator wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:32 pm Will there be an improvement in sound effects before ?

Kerensky wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 9:16 pm There's no Hosho, Taiho, Juno, Unryu, Hiyo, Kaga, Hiryu, Soryu, Shinano, or any other Japanese aircraft carrier models that were produced... And those are just names I can rattle off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. (Shokaku/Zuikaku were models ordered during the 1946 asset run)

ME262 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 12:31 am HAIL is correct! I'm 70 yrs.old an I still race home to play this game!!! What ever content his team has produced I own. Let no one speak badly about the dedication this man & team have worked to provide us the fans with hours an hours of GREAT gaming time. So what if Pacific has not worked out, perhaps in time it may, There is volumes of content still that can be created. Hail again to the team!!! Never give up an never quit.

adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jan 20, 2024 1:33 am I'm saddened by the comments basically calling Kerensky a Nazi Lover. It must be because of his AI created art.

I'm also disappointed to hear that Pacific General is postponed indefinitely. I think we all could imagine the difficulties from the beginning. It's hard to separate those island battles from any meaningful naval combat and I guess they couldn't figure out a way to make it work in a satisfying way with the current engine.

Now I wonder what campaigns/DLCs await us instead? Sounds like they have been working on them already.

Anyone ready to wager a bet, or vote for which one they would most like to see first?

• Afrika Korps?

• British Campaign?

• American Campaign (Europe)?

• Soviet Campaign?

• German (West) Campaign?

• Micro campaign focused on a specific unit/region (like FSJ, Balkins, Norway, Commando Operations, Japanese land campaign in _______, etc.?

While I have always loved the African theater of operations, I think I'm first ready for an Allied campaign so I can de-Nazify myself after playing all of these pro-Nazi scenarios. I think killing fictional Nazis will, I hope, cleanse my soul.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 9:48 pm Just imagine the time spent sitting, and working, in a chair for it to look like that.