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SirAllan wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 5:00 pm Btw is this change the reason why, we dont have any airlift transport point anymore? Cause we used to have 3 airlift.
Dear Devs Im begging you to turn that nerf of paras back to what is was and give us back the airlift points too.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:30 pm Axis Operations already uses a separate ruleset from the base game, mostly for some minor changes like the rate that awards and medals are issued but also to disable time altering options that also break certain scenarios.

Perhaps that ruleset can be expanded to cover paratrooper mechanics so return them to how they used to be within the Axis Operations.

I'll inquire about it, but in the meantime, sorry about the problems this is causing to past scenarios.

Kerensky wrote: ↑Sun Jul 11, 2021 7:30 pm Axis Operations already uses a separate ruleset from the base game, mostly for some minor changes like the rate that awards and medals are issued but also to disable time altering options that also break certain scenarios.

Perhaps that ruleset can be expanded to cover paratrooper mechanics so return them to how they used to be within the Axis Operations.

I'll inquire about it, but in the meantime, sorry about the problems this is causing to past scenarios.

Gfot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:41 am Another thing I've noticed is that before you could drop in the hex under the transport and any adjacent hex, now you can only drop in the square under the plane. As a result, some of Student's troops stay in their gliders throughout the Crete scenario, I went to great lengths to rescue them from their usually grisly fate, cleared the area, but even with a free hex under them they simply don't land.

Gfot wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 12:41 am Another thing I've noticed is that before you could drop in the hex under the transport and any adjacent hex, now you can only drop in the square under the plane. As a result, some of Student's troops stay in their gliders throughout the Crete scenario, I went to great lengths to rescue them from their usually grisly fate, cleared the area, but even with a free hex under them they simply don't land.

bendtheknee wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:07 pm is it possible to have an answer on the motivation of this change of mechanics ? I hope it's not just because of the haters on pvp.....

nexusno2000 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:00 pm

bendtheknee wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:07 pm is it possible to have an answer on the motivation of this change of mechanics ? I hope it's not just because of the haters on pvp.....

Because there is not counter to paras. Fighters and AA can't really intercept.

z68250532 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:38 am It is a bad change. It seems they didn't consider carefully before they made the decision, since it is easy to realize that some scenarios don't make sense after this change. For example, EbenEmal. After this nerf, it is impossible to encircle the fort in turn 1, which means the enemy can always get the ammo.

I don't play MP at all, I don't know how many people buy this game for MP but not for campaigns. If they want to do some big change for MP purposes, they should only change that in MP.

z68250532 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:45 am

nexusno2000 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 8:00 pm

bendtheknee wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:07 pm is it possible to have an answer on the motivation of this change of mechanics ? I hope it's not just because of the haters on pvp.....

Because there is not counter to paras. Fighters and AA can't really intercept.

They can add a support fire if you drop the paratroop within the range of fighter or AA.
The current change makes paratroop extremely "slow" and useless.
Also, some scenarios, such as "EbenEmael", are designed with the previous version of paratroop. These scenarios don't make sense anymore after this change.

nexusno2000 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 15, 2021 5:40 am I think the change is fine.

Eben Emal specifically should maybe be tweaked.