Slitherine

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:03 am

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:26 am

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:19 am A world flat and empty as a chessboard ?
I pray the 'Gods' of FoG2 for relief

Are terrains for custom SP battles moddable by scripts ? If so, which ones ?
In addition to the nice random terrains the Vanilla FoG2 series offer, I'd like to be able sometimes to force the map to have say a forest in its centre as it sometimes occurs in P&S. Just for fun (and myself). Is it possible ?

All possible if you are good at programming. The map generation code (and there is a lot of it) is in /Data/Battle/Scrips/MapGenerateBattle.BSF.

That's excellent! Does that mean that we can also create our own tailor-made map types?

NikiforosFokas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 1:46 pm Thanks for the replies, but the point of the post was not how I could play the way I like. This was an idea how a game about tactical battles will force the players to give a battle.

Athos1660 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:08 am

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:03 am

rbodleyscott wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:26 am

All possible if you are good at programming. The map generation code (and there is a lot of it) is in /Data/Battle/Scrips/MapGenerateBattle.BSF.

That's excellent! Does that mean that we can also create our own tailor-made map types?

If you ever make a basic tutorial, I'm interested.

(That said, vanilla terrains are great imo)

SLancaster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:58 pm I also like the fact that I haven't seen any deep streams running right across the map yet in Medieval. Not sure if someone else has found any!

Cunningcairn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 8:06 am

SLancaster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 5:58 pm I also like the fact that I haven't seen any deep streams running right across the map yet in Medieval. Not sure if someone else has found any!

I don't think the map generators are any different from what I've seen.

SLancaster wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 2:22 am For the record, I am 1000% behind NikiforosFokas.

NikiforosFokas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:08 pm I know it is late to change anything for the in-game mechanics. But I want to share an opinion about how the multiplayer experience can become better. I love the game, but I have caught myself avoiding multiplayer, playing only the campaigns. Why? Because most of my games, there is a hill and someone is camping on this. Or in the forests.. You all mean what I mean. I know this had been discussed in length in the past. There was the opinion that this is a tactical decision to avoid the battle, etc. But this is a tactical game, not a strategic or operational one. When we play, we suppose that for any reason, the two forces want to have a battle. Do not forget that there was a simple way to find the winner of the battle in ancient times. The winner was the side that controlled the battlefield at the end of the day.
My simple suggestion comes from my RTS experience (e.g., Dawn of War 1 &2). In that game, some strategic points forced the two players to battle. In fact, the game told you: Oh do you want to turtle in the corner? Fine, do that, but you lose 100%. An excellent idea, in my opinion. The secret why DoW has a multiplayer base almost two decades after its release.
How can this transfer to FoG2? Simply. Put two strategic points in the middle of the battlefield. Just 2, just in the middle. The player who controls both of them for some turns (for example, 5) wins the game. Simply and I think it will create a far more enjoyable game. As I already stated, I know it is late. But I would like to hear RBS's opinion about that.

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Fri Feb 19, 2021 12:46 pm

NikiforosFokas wrote: ↑Sat Feb 13, 2021 12:08 pm I know it is late to change anything for the in-game mechanics. But I want to share an opinion about how the multiplayer experience can become better. I love the game, but I have caught myself avoiding multiplayer, playing only the campaigns. Why? Because most of my games, there is a hill and someone is camping on this. Or in the forests.. You all mean what I mean. I know this had been discussed in length in the past. There was the opinion that this is a tactical decision to avoid the battle, etc. But this is a tactical game, not a strategic or operational one. When we play, we suppose that for any reason, the two forces want to have a battle. Do not forget that there was a simple way to find the winner of the battle in ancient times. The winner was the side that controlled the battlefield at the end of the day.
My simple suggestion comes from my RTS experience (e.g., Dawn of War 1 &2). In that game, some strategic points forced the two players to battle. In fact, the game told you: Oh do you want to turtle in the corner? Fine, do that, but you lose 100%. An excellent idea, in my opinion. The secret why DoW has a multiplayer base almost two decades after its release.
How can this transfer to FoG2? Simply. Put two strategic points in the middle of the battlefield. Just 2, just in the middle. The player who controls both of them for some turns (for example, 5) wins the game. Simply and I think it will create a far more enjoyable game. As I already stated, I know it is late. But I would like to hear RBS's opinion about that.

I think what you might need is a separate "tournament mode" with these 2 points on it, because tournaments is where I think most negative play is likely to occur. Tournament organisers could then choose to make such a facility compulsory or not. I would be strongly in favour of it.

NikiforosFokas wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:05 pm Dear Pete,
It is a real relief to hear that from you. I would really love to see an extra division based on the Advanced guard mode Play just one game of it and you will see what I mean

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:49 pm

NikiforosFokas wrote: ↑Sun Feb 21, 2021 5:05 pm Dear Pete,
It is a real relief to hear that from you. I would really love to see an extra division based on the Advanced guard mode Play just one game of it and you will see what I mean

I just had a quick look. I couldn't possibly use it as it is in the FOG2 Digital League.