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Bercor wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 11:55 pm

gaius21 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 8:55 am excellent work french dude, could it possible to combine your work with this mod?
http://www.slitherine.com/forum/viewtop ... 62&t=93494
its outdated and probably abandoned but you could use what work they have done.

Hi!

Just to let you know that the mod is not abandoned nor dead and that I'll work to make it compatible with FrenchDude's amazing work,.

Cheers

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:43 pm I just updated the mod to version 1.1 ! To use it, delete the former version of the mod and extract the new one to "Documents/My games/Field of Glory Empires/SCENARIOS"

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4f680fhz7 ... 1.rar/file

Changelog :

- Changed the unit's roster for generic Semitic nations
- Various changes in units proportions for diverse factions, mainly Caucasian, Indian, Iranian, Semitic, and Hellenic ones
- For Hellenic nations : FOGE "Armored Citizen Hoplites" won't be converted to "Raw Hoplites" in FOG2 anymore, as it was rarely the case before. They now will convert to Citizen Hoplites, Thureophoroi, and a few Veteran Hoplites. I'm also going to add a few faction specific units : Seleucid, Macedonian, Ptolemaic, Pontic, Bactrian Thureophoroi.
Bactria has access to Indo-Greek cavalry and an important part of its army isn't hellenistic but a mix of Indian and Eastern natives
- Pontus gains access to Pontic Chalkaspides when they reach Civ level III : This unit works as a "Silver Shield" unit : They are limited in number but elite. When exported to FOG2, they are Superior Pontic Chalkaspides, and even have a "some armor" protection rating.
- Carthage : Carthaginian mercenary horsemen now convert to numidian light horse javelin. Some change concerning the Sacred Band : Since the Carthaginian sacred band didn't exist in FOGE' grand campaign time period, I still keep them in FOGE but make them export to a minority of Sacred Band units in FOG2 TT mod and a majority of Veteran African Spearmen. The FOGE Sacred Band unit represents a renewal of the Sacred Band of old, with the number of "true" Carthaginian citizens being small and accompanied by some veteran Liby-phoenician footmen who will make the bulk of the new "Sacred Band". This New Sacred Band, is closer in philosophy to the rest of the Carthaginian army : Very few citizens, lots of subject and mercenary troops

As far as the mixed global TTMod/RiseofAI is concerned, I'm currently uploading it but it takes some time since I have to upload all the units textures contained in the mod and not only the Scripts affecting the AI. I have a fairly shitty internet connexion so that's going to take a while !

EDIT : I just found an easier way to upload the Global TTMod/RiseOfAI for Field of Glory II without having to upload all the Units textures :

http://www.mediafire.com/file/l9jkio2nu ... t.rar/file

1. Download this mod, extract it to "Documents/MyGames/FieldOfGlory2/MODS"
2. Open the already existing "TT_Mod-Global_1.1.18" mod (that you have downloaded before, since it is required for the Empire TT Mod to work) that is located in the same place ("Documents/MyGames/FieldOfGlory2/MODS")
3. In the TT_Mod-Global_1.1.18 folder, go to Data, then BATTLE, and then copy the existing "Units" and "Units Textures" folders
4. Paste these two folders inside TT_Mod-GlobalROAI_1.1.18/Data/BATTLE

What I did is that I copied the scripts of RiseOfAi and added them to the FOG2 Gobal TTMod. It seems to work, and I've been using it for a while now

And then you're good to go. Use the global "TTMod/RiseOfAi" in Field of Glory 2 when you export Empires TT Mod battles, and you'll have TT Mod Units fighting using the "Rise of AI" mod AI !
Thanks to Roguedjack for his Rise Of AI 3.0 Mod

Pocus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:44 pm I'll answer on the tier and tokens. Getting tokens from objectives does not magically grant you a good CDR ratio, so you can still be in the bottom tier, and then lose the gained tokens.

TimDee58 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 10:15 pm As Alani I very early on campaigned throughout Alania and Albania in two areas I encountered Numidian style warriors and in another one unit of Camelry ( this was whilst fighting against semitic and / or nomadic independents and resolving combat within Empires), strange.

Oddly I managed to take 6 objectives by turn 8 and yet was still rooted to the foot of the bottom tier, at one stage I had 3 'plus' tokens, took 3 more objective areas in 2 turns and found that I had dropped to only 2 'plus' tokens.

confused.com

TimDee58 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:10 pm

Pocus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:44 pm I'll answer on the tier and tokens. Getting tokens from objectives does not magically grant you a good CDR ratio, so you can still be in the bottom tier, and then lose the gained tokens.

ah, what I should have said was that (in 3 or 4 turns) I started with 2 tokens, then I captured 5 or so objectives and then discovered that I was down to 2....

Not an issue though I still think this is the best, most immersive, game I've ever played

nikossaiz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:59 pm

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I just updated the mod to version 1.1 

congrats!! happy to see the moding comunity evolving

do i need a new campaign to play with it correct? cause i follow the instractions and all my saves were broken. Nevermind though, again happy to see you push your mod forward.

nikossaiz wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 12:59 pm
do i need a new campaign to play with it correct? cause i follow the instractions and all my saves were broken. Nevermind though, again happy to see you push your mod forward.

Paul59 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:32 am

TimDee58 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:10 pm

Pocus wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 2:44 pm I'll answer on the tier and tokens. Getting tokens from objectives does not magically grant you a good CDR ratio, so you can still be in the bottom tier, and then lose the gained tokens.

ah, what I should have said was that (in 3 or 4 turns) I started with 2 tokens, then I captured 5 or so objectives and then discovered that I was down to 2....

Not an issue though I still think this is the best, most immersive, game I've ever played

When you get 5 tokens your nation moves up a Civilisation sub-level, you then lose those tokens and you start from zero again. So what you describe sounds perfectly normal.

If you want to keep playing with the older saves, try to use Paul's method and copy/replace the files from 1.1 into the 1.0 folder. I hope it'll work !

TimDee58 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:24 pm

Paul59 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 9:32 am

TimDee58 wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 5:10 pm

ah, what I should have said was that (in 3 or 4 turns) I started with 2 tokens, then I captured 5 or so objectives and then discovered that I was down to 2....

Not an issue though I still think this is the best, most immersive, game I've ever played

When you get 5 tokens your nation moves up a Civilisation sub-level, you then lose those tokens and you start from zero again. So what you describe sounds perfectly normal.

Hi Paul, no there was no progression to a higher level

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:13 pm
Paul59, tell me what you think about your Pontus play with the changes I made to units if you have some time. Do you think that Pontic armies feel closer to the FOG2TT army lists ? I didn't include Armored Noble Lancers as recruitabe units in Pontus starting province, because I thought that if the player wants to access nomadic lancers/horse archers, he should first have to recreate part of the Pontic Black sea empire and occupy lands around crimea to gain access to nomadic provincial units. It feels more logical to me

Paul59 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:41 am

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:13 pm
Paul59, tell me what you think about your Pontus play with the changes I made to units if you have some time. Do you think that Pontic armies feel closer to the FOG2TT army lists ? I didn't include Armored Noble Lancers as recruitabe units in Pontus starting province, because I thought that if the player wants to access nomadic lancers/horse archers, he should first have to recreate part of the Pontic Black sea empire and occupy lands around crimea to gain access to nomadic provincial units. It feels more logical to me

I haven't played vanilla Empires for a long time, so it is difficult for me to tell what in the unit conversion is vanilla and what is your mod. But overall your mod seems quite good, I am getting Pontic Pike and Thureophoroi which is nice. I have not progressed to getting Imitation Legions or Cataphracts yet, so cannot comment on them. I was a bit surprised at first to see Citizen Hoplites converting to Takabara, but I suppose that is okay for Iranian cities. Also I would prefer Euzonoi to only result from Thureophoroi, I had some converting from Cilician Archers which seemed quite odd.


cheers

Paul

Paul59 wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 9:41 am

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:13 pm
Paul59, tell me what you think about your Pontus play with the changes I made to units if you have some time. Do you think that Pontic armies feel closer to the FOG2TT army lists ? I didn't include Armored Noble Lancers as recruitabe units in Pontus starting province, because I thought that if the player wants to access nomadic lancers/horse archers, he should first have to recreate part of the Pontic Black sea empire and occupy lands around crimea to gain access to nomadic provincial units. It feels more logical to me

I haven't played vanilla Empires for a long time, so it is difficult for me to tell what in the unit conversion is vanilla and what is your mod. But overall your mod seems quite good, I am getting Pontic Pike and Thureophoroi which is nice. I have not progressed to getting Imitation Legions or Cataphracts yet, so cannot comment on them. I was a bit surprised at first to see Citizen Hoplites converting to Takabara, but I suppose that is okay for Iranian cities. Also I would prefer Euzonoi to only result from Thureophoroi, I had some converting from Cilician Archers which seemed quite odd.


cheers

Paul

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:55 pm
FOGE "Citizen Hoplites" (Regular Infantry) shouldn't convert to Takabara when playing as Pontus, they are supposed to convert either to Thureophoroi or Eastern hillmen. Pontus FOGE Heavy Infantry converts to Citizen Hoplites and Thureophoroi. Are you sure the Takabara you had were from a regular infantry Citizen Hoplites unit playing as Pontus ? When looking at the mod, I can't see where I could've messed this up for now

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:55 pm
I just realized now that I made a mistake : When adding the new specific thurophoroi units, I forgot to add specific thureophoroi units to the Hellenic Heavy Infantry units of each nation. So, for example, instead of having Pontus Heavy Infantry export to Citizen Hoplites + Pontic Thureophoroi, it exports to Citizen Hoplites + generic hellenic Thureophoroi in FOG2.

I'll correct this in the next update !

Paul59 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:26 pm

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:55 pm
FOGE "Citizen Hoplites" (Regular Infantry) shouldn't convert to Takabara when playing as Pontus, they are supposed to convert either to Thureophoroi or Eastern hillmen. Pontus FOGE Heavy Infantry converts to Citizen Hoplites and Thureophoroi. Are you sure the Takabara you had were from a regular infantry Citizen Hoplites unit playing as Pontus ? When looking at the mod, I can't see where I could've messed this up for now

Here is a screenshot of the Citizen Hoplite converting to Sparabara, I have also seen it in enemy armies, I can't remember which army it was, maybe Osroene.

FrenchDude wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 10:55 pm
I just realized now that I made a mistake : When adding the new specific thurophoroi units, I forgot to add specific thureophoroi units to the Hellenic Heavy Infantry units of each nation. So, for example, instead of having Pontus Heavy Infantry export to Citizen Hoplites + Pontic Thureophoroi, it exports to Citizen Hoplites + generic hellenic Thureophoroi in FOG2.

I'll correct this in the next update !

That's strange, I am definitely already getting Pontic thureophoroi in exported battles, they are converting from Citizen Hoplites. I am not getting any generic thureophoroi in Pontic armies. Maybe I have not recruited any Heavy Infantry yet?

I have also seen Mercenary Hoplites converting to Eastern Archers, I think this was with an Osroene army.