How? I can barely stay afloat on FM with Trophies of War trait and actively trying to encircle/capture as many units as possible (the proceeds of which tend to get eaten up by "allies" before I even have a chance to reinforce core units).
That's good to know, thanks.Kerensky wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:52 pm It should be noted that surrender of infantry, which doesn't produce any captured equipment, actually produces a huge amount of prestige. It's a pretty big windfall to snag a near full strength Brigada Mixta or International Brigade by forcing their surrender.
Infantry with TRUCKS.Kerensky wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 7:52 pm I dunno how to explain it past the video demonstration of mass encirclement mass surrender.
It should be noted that surrender of infantry, which doesn't produce any captured equipment, actually produces a huge amount of prestige. It's a pretty big windfall to snag a near full strength Brigada Mixta or International Brigade by forcing their surrender.
Isn't elite reinforcement the only way to go? Losing star will result in worse combat results for very long time, it will burn 10 times more prestige than you "save" on using green replacements.
Tiny fraction of my forces gets elite replacements all the time (talking like 10 slots worth in a CORE of 60 or more total slots)Plaid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:03 pm Isn't elite reinforcement the only way to go? Losing star will result in worse combat results for very long time, it will burn 10 times more prestige than you "save" on using green replacements.
Green reinforcements seems to be flawed mechanic, only reason to use them is to create additional challenge.
For me, the real difficult thing to do is Overstrengthening units. It is very hard for me to justify Overstrength for a unit instead of fielding another unit of more total core-wide HP for the same core slot cost, especially when core slots seem in such short supply. I know I'm hurting myself a little bit by not having some heavy hitters around, but I'd rather have more of a AAA umbrella than another 2 Panzer IBs in a unit. I'm starting to come around on it, but it's still a hard cost-reward balance to figure out.Kerensky wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:09 pm
Tiny fraction of my forces gets elite replacements all the time (talking like 10 slots worth in a CORE of 60 or more total slots)
At least half of my force gets regular replacements during the battle. These are units with high attrition that I can't afford to sideline.
The rest of my CORE are somewhere half way between always elite and never elite. When these units take damage during the natural course of a scenario... I just don't repair them. I use their overstrength buffers to keep them in the fight for longer periods of time. Going from 13 to 11 to 8 to 6 after many, many engagements.
And when that number gets too low, I sideline them. Just pull them back to garrison my rear areas while the rest of my forces complete whatever is left of the mission. And then in rolling over to next deployment phase, elite replacements are back on the menu.
I consider this pretty basic level prestige management, but the more I see people starving and running out of prestige in the Spanish Civil War content, the more I see it's not so obvious to everyone...
Altermann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:41 pm So far, for me, this game in no way continues the great game that PC1 was/is, much the same way that Panzer General 2 did not continue the original PG game.
I have to respectfully disagree with you on several points.
First of all, PG2 was an awesome game! I played the origninal PG to death back when it came out on the only Mac I ever owned. It is fair to say that this general series, PG-PC2, are my favorite computer games of all time. I loved it so much that when I discovered that PG2 was going to be released only for Windows/PC, I actually bought a new PC! (Though that wasn't the only reason, it was a big one)!
I ended up loving PG2 even more. Now, to be honest, I hardly remember the vanilla campaign that came with it. However, I played the user made campaigns for ages afterwards that expanded the original in many new ways. This wasn't just about lengthening the vanilla campaign, but also adding lots of scenarios to cover battles that weren't usually covered, both fictional an historical.
What will the next DLC be?? The battle of Eritrea by the Italians, or the Anschluss of Austria, or perhaps the taking of Czechoslovakia! If this is all we can expect for the 2nd DLC this game will quickly take over a spot in my bookcase, to never be looked at again!
The developers of PC1 took all of this and used it to make PC1 such a great game and included the ability, intentionally, for mods to expand it further. The GCs are their own in house answer to what the mod campaigns were to PG2. Now, with PC2 if you browse this forum, you'll see some of your opinion, but the majority want something different. Not just a repeat of the first game but with different graphics and a few other tweaks.
I had such high hopes for this game to expand PC1, and some things I do like, in this game, are things like Traits, giving orders to satellite armies, splitting units, to name a few, but it needs much more!
Many of us were looking for some new frontiers to experience... yes!... through-out our 'Gaming-Past'... we have... 'Time and Time again'... have 'Repeatedly run through the same 'Rote/Modus Operandi'... the same show... over and over again and again. We wanted instead... to have a small taste of what quite a few of us... haven't had the chance to explore before... so now the "Spanish Civil War" delivers to us... a new adventure!... a different perspective to see another side of this conflict...such as it was from its very-beginnings!.adiekmann wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 5:13 amAltermann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:41 pm So far, for me, this game in no way continues the great game that PC1 was/is, much the same way that Panzer General 2 did not continue the original PG game.
Now, with PC2 if you browse this forum, you'll see some of your opinion, but the majority want something different. Not just a repeat of the first game but with different graphics and a few other tweaks.[/color]
It is only one DLC, and a unique one, but I think you'll get more of what you were looking for in the upcoming DLCs, but only time will tell. My advice, be patient. It's like judging a book on only the first chapter.
I am fairly certain that this sort of thing can be modded in. Briefings are in *.pz2brf files in the corresponding scenario folders, i.e. briefing for Seville is in ...\PanzerCorps2\Content\Campaigns\AO0Spain\01Seville\Seville.pz2brf file. Those files seem to be modifiable with in-game scenario editor. At least editor can open them, I haven't actually poked around in there too much.Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:15 pm SCW ... Additional-After-Thought-Commentary:
For "Enhanced-Game-Immersion"... I would have so much liked to see to have seen for instance... some posturing and verbal support statements from "Mussolini & Adolf Hitler" for their involvement in the Spanish Civil War... to give some additional substance for their involvement in this Crises... as well as to what they had hoped to gain or to get out of it... so as to make the Game... less sterile... and more informative.
Pretty much exactly my feelings. I've played part of the SCW campaign and have no serious problems with most of the implementation per se, I just don't find it interesting or particularly relevant as a PC2 DLC. Not something I would have purchased if given the option. Probably will be the same with "pre-Poland" DLC #2. They can do all the scenarios they want, but again, what is the point? Could well be a fine product with niche interest-- but I am not in that niche. Oh well, chalk it up to experience I guess but I doubt I will EVER pre-pay for any DLC from ANY developer ever again. "Fool me once..." and all that.Altermann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:41 pm I'm sorry, but I did not pay Cdn $100 to get some little backwater Spanish Civil war DLC, which had very little to do with WW2. Yes it was a terrible conflict, as all Civil Wars are, but for this game it should have been included in the original game as a Campaign and NOT as a DLC, or, better idea, not even included at all!
Sorry, but you already did pay, willingly I might add, knowing that you did not, in fact, know what kind of DLCs would be released first. So why whine now?Altermann wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 10:41 pm I'm sorry, but I did not pay Cdn $100 to get some little backwater Spanish Civil war DLC, which had very little to do with WW2. Yes it was a terrible conflict, as all Civil Wars are, but for this game it should have been included in the original game as a Campaign and NOT as a DLC, or, better idea, not even included at all!
So far, for me, this game in no way continues the great game that PC1 was/is, much the same way that Panzer General 2 did not continue the original PG game. What will the next DLC be?? The battle of Eritrea by the Italians, or the Anschluss of Austria, or perhaps the taking of Czechoslovakia! If this is all we can expect for the 2nd DLC this game will quickly take over a spot in my bookcase, to never be looked at again!
I had such high hopes for this game to expand PC1, and some things I do like, in this game, are things like Traits, giving orders to satellite armies, splitting units, to name a few, but it needs much more!
I think one could justify the game design decision for the Nationalist using your prestige as follows. Your literal prestige (your reputation in the German OKW) is hurt by the high casualties of the allies you are supposed to be supporting. You had one job - to support the Nationalists. If it is a bloodbath for them, it doesn't look good for you. It may not be that the Nationalists are taking your German oil, ammo and food etc. (still less your replacement men): but the end result is similar, you start being starved of resources because the Nationalists are not doing well.o_t_d_x wrote: ↑Fri Jul 24, 2020 9:47 am Instead of defend, what i rarely use, i would need a new order: "hold without touching my prestige". Prestige is my reputation in the german OKW, why should that be needed for the spanish to get supplies ? (which the germans didnt deliver - or did they drop large amounts of supplies during nationalist attacks ? and even if they did, I want to control who gets supplies and how much)
Give the attack order the first turn.
In the Panzer General I played so many years ago , you never see the face of the guy who gives you the briefings , and he is not in any other way identified , but there was a clue , maybe a thin clue , and I can't remember what the clue was , ( we are talking about a 20 year old ( ? ) memory here ) but the clue gave me the impression that the guy briefing you was Adolf Hitler.Retributarr wrote: ↑Sat Jul 25, 2020 3:15 pm SCW ... Additional-After-Thought-Commentary:
For "Enhanced-Game-Immersion"... I would have so much liked to see to have seen for instance... some posturing and verbal support statements from "Mussolini & Adolf Hitler" for their involvement in the Spanish Civil War...
