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Re: Ahistorical allies . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:34 pm
by stockwellpete
rs2excelsior wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:15 pm Does the midpoint of the ally’s army list need to fall between the given dates (iirc that’s the rule for determining which section an army list which covers two sections goes to), or just have any date within the section’s range? I.e. would a hypothetical 5 BC - 100 AD list be an allowable ally for Classical Antiquity?
Any overlap will do, even it is just a few years, because that will make it a possible historical ally. Yes, your example would be allowable in Classical Antiquity.

Re: Ahistorical allies . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:26 pm
by Ironclad
Shouldn't the ally overlap with the dates of the principal army, not the overall range for the digital league period concerned? Otherwise there is still an anomaly of allies being ahistorical.

Re: Ahistorical allies . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:28 pm
by stockwellpete
Ironclad wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:26 pm Shouldn't the ally overlap with the dates of the principal army, not the overall range for the digital league period concerned? Otherwise there is still an anomaly of allies being ahistorical.
But they do, don't they? Otherwise it wouldn't be an ally in the game itself.

Re: Tournament News and Diary . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:29 pm
by TomoeGozen
I reckon you must be getting something right with this league Pete!😊

Re: Late Antiquity recruitment: there are 3 places left . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:39 pm
by McHarg
Sign me up. Armies are:

1) Romano-British
2) Byzantine 551-578
3) Kingdom of Soissons
4) Scots Irish

cheers

Geoff

Armies checked, OK 25/1

Re: Tournament News and Diary . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:58 pm
by stockwellpete
TomoeGozen wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:29 pm I reckon you must be getting something right with this league Pete!😊
Not too bad, is it? :D

Re: Tournament News and Diary . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:20 pm
by tyronec
Being new to this it is a pleasure to see something being run so professionally. No small wonder that the numbers are going well.

Re: Biblical recruitment: there are 6 places left . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:26 pm
by stockwellpete
There are still 6 places left.

Re: Tournament News and Diary . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:27 pm
by kronenblatt
stockwellpete wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:21 pm 100!! :D
Wow! Well done, Pete! :)

Re: Tournament News and Diary . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:57 pm
by paulmcneil
stockwellpete wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:21 pm 100!! :D
Definitely a highlight of my lockdown Pete, love a little adrenalin hit when there're points at stake!

Re: Your choice of allies must fit the beginning/end dates of the section you have entered . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:05 pm
by Ironclad
That should be the case, but I seem to recall to my surprise when checking army and enemy army combinations during the last league season instances when it wasn't prohibited.

Re: Your choice of allies must fit the beginning/end dates of the section you have entered . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:11 pm
by SimonLancaster
Thanks for the clarification. I will change.

Re: Your choice of allies must fit the beginning/end dates of the section you have entered . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:13 pm
by stockwellpete
Ironclad wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:05 pm That should be the case, but I seem to recall to my surprise when checking army and enemy army combinations during the last league season instances when it wasn't prohibited.
If you can find an example please post it on here so I can pontificate on it. I expect I will end up having to make another list eventually. :wink:

Re: Your choice of allies must fit the beginning/end dates of the section you have entered . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:13 pm
by stockwellpete
SLancaster wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:11 pm Thanks for the clarification. I will change.
Thanks. :wink:

Re: Tournament News and Diary . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:15 pm
by stockwellpete
Cheers everyone. It has been an ambition of mine to reach 100 players. Never did it in FOG1 and it has taken 10 seasons to do it in FOG2. :D

Re: Your choice of allies must fit the beginning/end dates of the section you have entered . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm
by Swuul
IIRC Samnites can be an ally for some army/armies which do not overlap with Samnites. Not at the game atm, but doesn't for example some Carthaginian armies have samnites as a possible ally, even though that/those carthaginian army is outside the existence of the Samnites?

Re: Your choice of allies must fit the beginning/end dates of the section you have entered . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:29 pm
by stockwellpete
Swuul wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:16 pm IIRC Samnites can be an ally for some army/armies which do not overlap with Samnites. Not at the game atm, but doesn't for example some Carthaginian armies have samnites as a possible ally, even though that/those carthaginian army is outside the existence of the Samnites?
Yes, I have just looked this up. The Hannibal in Italy army is dated 216-203BC and they are allowed Samnite allies whose dates are 355-272BC. So there is no actual in-game date overlap. I assume the reason that Richard has allowed this is because although the Samnites lost their independence to Rome many of them joined Hannibal when he invaded Italy.

So, in these circumstances the Samnite allies are allowable, both for specific historical reasons and because their dates are compatible with the Classical Antiquity section.

Re: Your choice of allies must fit the beginning/end dates of the section you have entered . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:36 pm
by stockwellpete
The example in question earlier today concerned the Parthians who have dates from 250BC to 225AD, a huge timespan of 475 years which straddles the cut off date between the Classical Antiquity and Late Antiquity sections of the tournament (1BC and 0AD). The allies picked were the Seleucids 166-125BC. The Parthians are an army choice in Late Antiquity, but the dates for the Seleucids fall completely within the Classical Antiquity timeframe, so they are not a valid choice of allies in the Late Antiquity section.

Re: Classical Antiquity is now full, reserve places only . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:03 pm
by sarmation
Reserve first army indo skythian prefer 1600

(Reserve E/F)

Re: Tournament News and Diary . . .

Posted: Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:22 pm
by harveylh
stockwellpete wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:15 pm Cheers everyone. It has been an ambition of mine to reach 100 players. Never did it in FOG1 and it has taken 10 seasons to do it in FOG2. :D
Quality and fairness matter and Pete does both well which is why the retention rate is high.

Harvey