Slitherine

GeneralKostas wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 10:41 am In the Knock-out stage, you could choose for the second battle (Seleucid v Romans) the default battle of Magnesia.

Yes, I could. But last season players who reached the knock-out stage didn't like the scenarios that were provided too much, so this time I am going to allow players to pick their own armies.

Pete,
I think the issue with the knock out stage scenarios were the unit match ups (which were very similar on both sides if I remember rightly) that lead to the battles being a bit of a lottery , rather than the use of the default battles themselves. I can't see any issues with Roman maniples against Seleucid pike blocks.
cheers,
Dave.

I'd prefer a Custom Battle with two pre-specified armies only and leave to players to select and deploy units, along with a pre-specified map terrain. And not an Epic Battle.

Hi, I am also interested.

Classical Antiquity

Instructions

Here is the full army list for the Classical Antiquity league section. There are over 100 armies available to choose from and, initially, players are required to choose 4 of them from different nations (so not three Carthaginian armies and one Seleucid army, for example). You may choose to use one type of ally with each army selection and these must be nominated now. Please also notice also the regulation regarding the “Diadochi nation” of mainly pike armies at the bottom of the army list.

Please post your army selections in your order of preference in this thread and indicate whether you want to play at 1200 points or 1600 points.

Important: you cannot pick your 4 armies, or their allies, from nations that you used in your last season in this section, whether you used them as your main army or as the allies.

Note: the default size for armies in this section is 1600 points. Matches may be played at 1200 points where both players have indicated a preference for medium-sized battles.

Once players have been organised into divisions of 10 based on their playing experience and ability, they will then be allocated one of their four choices. The allocation process will give preference to the lowest rated players (see FOG2DL ratings) in each division. Only very occasionally might a player be asked to make another selection at this stage.

Players will need to have both the base game and the Immortal Fire DLC to enter this section of the tournament.

Please be sure to familiarise yourself with both the Rules of Competition and the Players' Guide.

The Rules are here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101085
The Guide is here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101087

Army list
Achaemenid Persian 550-546 BC
Achaemenid Persian 547 BC (Thymbra)
Achaemenid Persian 545-481 BC
Achaemenid Persian 480-461 BC
Achaemenid Persian 460-420 BC
Achaemenid Persian 419-329 BC
Apulian 420-203 BC
Armenian Tigranes 83-69 BC
Armenian 331 BC-252 AD
Atropatene 320-145 BC
Bithynian 297-74 BC
Bosporan 348-85 BC
Bosporan 84-11 BC
Bruttian or Lucanian 420-203 BC
Campanian 420-281 BC
Campanian 280-203 BC
Carthaginian 490-411 BC
Carthaginian 410-341 BC
Carthaginian 340-281 BC
Carthaginian 280-263 BC
Carthaginian 262-236 BC
Carthaginian 235-146 BC
Carthaginian (Hannibal in Italy) 218-217 BC
Carthaginian (Hannibal in Italy) 216-203 BC
Carthaginian (Hannibal in Africa) 202 BC
Egyptian 405-343 BC (Rise of Persia DLC)
Etruscan 490-331 BC
Etruscan 330-280 BC
Galatian 280-63 BC
Galatian 62-25 BC
Gallic 390-301 BC
Gallic 300-101 BC
Gallic 100-50 BC
Graeco-Bactrian 250-130 BC
Greek 680-461 BC
Greek 460-281 BC
Greek (Mercenary) 460-281 BC
Greek 280-228 BC
Greek (Western) 280-49 BC
Greek 227-146 BC
Illyrian 350 BC-25 AD
Indian 500 BC-319 AD
Indo_Greek 175 BC-10 AD
Indo-Skythian 95 BC-50 AD
Italian Hill Tribes 490-275 BC
Jewish 167-164BC
Jewish 163-111 BC
Jewish 110-64 BC
Jewish 64 BC-6 AD
Kappadokian 260 BC-17 AD
Kyrenean Greek 550-461 BC
Kyrenean Greek 460-322 BC
Kyrenean Greek 321-276 BC
Latin 490-338 BC
Libyan 549-301 BC
Libyan 300 BC-70 AD
Ligurian 480-145 BC
Lydian 550-546 BC
Mountain Indian 492-170 BC
Nabataean 260 BC-106 AD
Numidian or Moorish 220-56 BC
Numidian or Moorish 55 BC- 6 AD
Pergamene 262-191 BC
Pergamene 190-129 BC
Pontic 281-111 BC
Pontic 110-85 BC
Pontic 84-47 BC
Pyrrhic 280-275 BC
Pyrrhic 274-272 BC
Rhoxolani 350 BC-24 AD
Roman 490-341 BC
Roman 340-281 BC
Roman 280-220 BC
Roman 219-200 BC
Roman 199-106 BC
Roman 105-25 BC
Saka 300 BC-50 AD
Samnite 355-272 BC
Sarmatian 350 BC-24 AD
Seleucid 320-303 BC
Seleucid 302-301 BC
Skythian or Saka 550-301 BC
Skythian 300 BC-50 AD
Slave Revolt 73-71 BC
Spanish Celtiberian 300-10 BC
Spanish Iberian 300-10 BC
Spanish Lusitanian 300-10 BC
Spanish (Sertorius) 80-70 BC
Spartan 680-461 BC
Spartan 460-281 BC
Spartan 280-228 BC
Spartan 227-222 BC
Spartan 221-146 BC
Syracusan 412-281 BC
Syracusan 280-211 BC
Thessalian 404-353 BC
Thracian (Triballi) 700-351 BC
Thracian 680-461 AD
Thracian (Getae) 680-330 BC
Thracian 460-351 BC
Thracian (Hellenistic) 350-281 BC
Thracian (Triballi) 350 BC-46 AD
Thracian (Hellenistic Getae) 329-281 BC
Thracian (Gallic) 280-212 BC
Thracian (Getae) 279-46 BC
Thracian 211-51 BC
Umbrian 490-260 BC

You may also make one selection from the "Diadochi group" of armies as one of your four army choices . . .

Antigonid 320-301 BC
Lysimachid 320-281 BC
Macedonian 355-329 BC
Macedonian 328-321 BC
Macedonian 320-261 BC
Macedonian 260-148 BC
Ptolemaic 320-218 BC
Ptolemaic 217-167 BC
Ptolemaic 166-56 BC
Ptolemaic 55-30 BC
Seleucid 300-206 BC
Seleucid 205-167 BC
Seleucid 166-125 BC
Seleucid 124-63 BC


Note: the armies in bold text are from those nations that have an exemption from the “one army per nation in each division” rule and they will be allowed two armies in any division provided they are from different time periods. They are the Achaemenid Persians, Carthaginians, Diadochi, Greeks, Romans and Thracians. You may only pick one army from any of these 6 groups.

Late Antiquity

Instructions

Here is the full army list for the Late Antiquity league section. There are over 60 armies available to choose from and, initially, players are required to choose 4 of them from different nations (so not three Hunnic armies and one Lombard army, for example). You may choose to use one type of ally with each army selection and these must be nominated now.

Please post your army selections in your order of preference in this thread and indicate whether you want to play at 1200 points or 1600 points.

Important: you cannot pick your 4 armies, or their allies, from nations that you used in your last season in this section, whether you used them as your main army or as the allies.

Note: the default size for armies in this section is 1600 points. Matches may be played at 1200 points where both players have indicated a preference for medium-sized battles.

Once players have been organised into divisions of 10 based on their playing experience and ability, they will then be allocated one of their four choices. The allocation process will give preference to the lowest rated players (see FOG2DL ratings) in each division. Only very occasionally might a player be asked to make another selection at this stage.

Players will need to have the base game, the Legions Triumphant DLC and the Age of Belisarius DLC to enter this section of the tournament. Please post your user name and your four army choices in this thread if you wish to enter this section.

The Rules are here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101085
The Guide is here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101087

Army list
Alan 25-650 AD
Ancient British 60 BC-80 AD
Anglo-Saxon 449-599 AD
Arab 312 BC-476 AD
Arab (Bedouin) 300-636 AD
Arab (City) 300-633 AD
Armenian 253-476 AD
Armenian 477-627 AD
Atropatene 144 BC-226 AD
Avar 553-557 AD
Avar 558-631 AD
Bosporan 11 BC-375 AD
Breton 411-579 AD
Byzantine 493-550 AD
Byzantine 551-578 AD
Byzantine 579-599 AD
Caledonian 50-225 AD
Caucasian 320 BC-476 AD
Dacian 50 BC-88 AD
Dacian 89-106 AD
Dacian (Carpi) 107-380 AD
Frankish 260-495 AD
Frankish 496-599 AD
Gepid 493-567 AD
Germanic Foot Tribes 105 BC-259 AD
Germanic/Gothic Foot Tribes 260-599 AD
Germanic/Gothic Horse Tribes 260-492 AD
Hephthalites 350-570 AD
Hunnic 250-375 AD
Hunnic 376-476 AD
Hunnic (Western) 376-454 AD
Hunnic (Western) 455-559 AD
Hunnic, Sabir 463-558 AD
Iberian or Colchian 331 BC-252 AD
Indian 320-545 AD
Indian 546-599 AD
Indo-Parthian 60 BC-130 AD
Jewish Revolt 66-135 AD
Kingdom of Soissons 461-486 AD
Kushan 130 BC-476 AD
Lombard 493-567 AD
Lombard 568-569 AD
Lombard 570-649 AD
​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​Nabataean 260 BC-106 AD
Moorish 350-698 AD
Ostrogoth 493-561 AD
Palmyran 258-273 AD
Parthian 250 BC - 225 AD (no Seleucid allies allowed)
Pictish 210-476 AD
Roman 24 BC–196 AD
Roman 197-284 AD
Roman 285-312 AD
Roman 313-378 AD
Roman 379-424 AD
Roman 425-492 AD
Romano-British 407-599 AD
Sarmatian 25-375 AD
Sassanid Persian 224-349 AD
Sassanid Persian 350-476 AD
Sassanid Persian 477-590 AD
Scots-Irish 50 BC-476 AD
Slav 500-599 AD
Turkish 552-599 AD
Vandal 442-499 AD
Vandal 500-534 AD

Note: the Roman armies in bold text have an exemption from the “one army per nation in each division” rule and they will be allowed two armies in any division provided they are from different time periods. You may only pick one army from this Roman group.

Early Middle Ages

Instructions

Here is the full army list for the Early Middle Ages league section. There are over 80 armies available to choose from and, initially, players are required to choose 4 of them (from different nations, so not three Byzantine armies and one Gepid army). You may choose to use one type of ally with each army selection and these must be nominated now.

Please post your army selections in your order of preference in this thread and indicate whether you want to play at 1200 points or 1600 points.

Important: you cannot pick your 4 armies, or their allies, from nations that you used in your last season in this section, whether you used them as your main army or as the allies.

Note: the default size for armies in this section is 1200 points. Matches may be played at 1600 points where both players have indicated a preference for large-sized battles.

Once players have been organised into divisions of 10 based on their playing experience and ability, they will then be allocated one of their four choices. The allocation process will give preference to the lowest rated players (see FOG2DL ratings) in each division. Only very occasionally might a player be asked to make another selection at this stage.

Players will need to have the base game, Legions Triumphant, Age of Belisarius and Wolves at the Gate DLC's to enter this section of the tournament.

The Rules are here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101085
The Guide is here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101087

Army list
Alan 651-1049 AD
Andalusian 756-1049 AD
Anglo-Saxon 600-870 AD
Anglo-Saxon 871-949 AD
Anglo-Saxon 950-1016 AD
Anglo-Danish 1017-1041 AD
Arab (Conquest) 629-637 AD
Arab (Conquest) 638-684 AD
Arab (Umayyad) 685-750 AD
Arab (Abbasid) 747-793 AD
Arab (Abbasid) 794-814 AD
Arab (Abbasid) 815-835 AD
Arab (Abbasid) 836-873 AD
Arab (Abbasid) 874-946 AD
Arab (North Africa) 789-999 AD
Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008 AD
Arab (North Africa) 1000-1160 AD
Arab (Syria/Iraq) 1009-1150 AD
Armenian 639-717 AD
Armenian 885-1045 AD
Avar 632-826 AD
Breton 580-931 AD
Breton 936-1049 AD
British 600-1030 AD
Bulgar 631-679 AD
Bulgar (Volga) 675-1237 AD
Bulgar (Danube) 680-851 AD
Bulgar (Danube) 852-1018 AD
Byzantine 600-649 AD
Byzantine 650-739 AD
Byzantine 740-903 AD
Byzantine 904-962 AD
Byzantine 963-987 AD
Byzantine 988-1041 AD
Croatian 625-849 AD
Croatian 850-1102 AD
Dabuyid 642-760 AD
Dailami 928-1055 AD
Fatimid Egyptian 978-1073 AD
Frankish 600-750 AD
Frankish 751-887 AD
French 888-1049 AD
Georgian 1008-1049 AD
German 888-932 AD
German 933-1049 AD
Ghaznavid 962-1187 AD
Indian (Hindu North) 600-1049 AD
Indian (Hindu South) 600-1049 AD
Indian (Rajput) 650-1049 AD
Irish 900-1049 AD
Khazar 650-737 AD
Khazar 738-969 AD
Khorasanian 821-1003 AD
Lombard 650-775 AD
Lombard 776-1049 AD
Magyar 830-1049 AD
Moravian 833-907 AD
Navarrese 778-899 AD
Navarrese 900-1049 AD
Norman 923-1040 AD
Pecheneg 850-1122 AD
Pictish 477-850 AD
Polish 966-1057 AD
Rus 860-959 AD
Rus 960-1053 AD
Sassanid Persian 591-628 AD
Sassanid Persian 629-651 AD
Saxon (Continental) 600-804 AD
Scots-Irish 477-846 AD
Scots 851-1051 AD
Serbian 625-849 AD
Serbian 850-1039 AD
Spanish 718-899 AD
Spanish 900-1049 AD
Turkish 600-1036 AD
Viking 790-899 AD
Viking 900-1049 AD
Viking (Ireland) 780-899 AD
Viking (Ireland) 900-1049 AD
Visigothic 622-717 AD
Welsh 600-1049 AD

Note: the armies in bold text are from those nations that have an exemption from the “one army per nation in each division” rule and they will be allowed two armies in any division. They are the Arab group of armies and the Byzantines. You may only pick one army from either of these 2 groups.

Biblical

Instructions

Below is the full army list for the Biblical league section. There are over 25 armies available to choose from and, initially, players are required to choose 4 of them (from different nations, so not three Achaemenid Persian armies and one Arab army). You may choose to use one type of ally with your army which must be nominated now. Please post your army selections in your order of preference in this thread.

Once players have been organised into divisions of 6 based on their playing experience and ability, they will then be allocated one of their four choices. The allocation process will give preference to the lowest rated players (see FOG2DL ratings) in each division. Only very occasionally might a player be asked to make another selection at this stage.

Everyone will play five “mirror matches” against the other players in their division using their own selection in one battle and their opponent's selection in the other. The TT Mod will no longer be used.

Players will need to have the base game, the Immortal Fire and the Rise of Persia DLC's to enter this section.

Please be sure to familiarise yourself with both the Rules of Competition and the Players' Guide.

The Rules are here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101085
The Guide is here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101087

Army list
Achaemenid Persians 550-546 BC
Achaemenid Persians (Thymbra) 547 BC
Achaemenid Persians 545-481 BC
Arab 1000-313 BC
Assyrian 681-609 BC
Babylonian 626-539 BC
Babylonian Revolt 522-482 BC
Cimmerian 760-600 BC
Cypriot 680-550 BC
Egyptian 664-571 BC
Egyptian 570-525 BC
Elamite (815-539 BC)
Hebrew 681-586 BC
Kushite Egyptian 727-656 BC
Libyan 549-301 BC
Lydian 687-551 BC
Mannaean 750-610 BC
Median 836-627 BC
Median 626-550 BC
Phoenician 681-539 BC
Skythian 750-551 BC
Skythian/Saka 550-301 BC
Thracian (Triballi) 700-351 BC
Thracian 680-461 BC
Thracian (Getae) 680-330 BC
Urartian 681-585 BC

Hi. I'm also interested.

High Middle Ages

Instructions

Here is the full army list for the High Middle Ages league section. There are over 50 armies available to choose from and, initially, players are required to choose 4 of them from different nations (so not three German armies and one Scots army).

Please post your army selections (and allies if desired) in your order of preference in this thread and indicate whether you want to play at 1200 points or 1600 points.

Note: the default size for armies in this section is 1200 points. Matches may be played at 1600 points where both players have indicated a preference for large-sized battles.

Once players have been organised into divisions of 10 based on their playing experience and ability, they will then be allocated one of their four choices. The allocation process will give preference to the lowest rated players (see FOG2DL ratings) in each division. Only very occasionally might a player be asked to make another selection at this stage.

Players will need to have FOG2 Medieval to enter this section of the tournament.

Please be sure to familiarise yourself with both the Rules of Competition and the Players' Guide.

The Rules are here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101085
The Guide is here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101087

Army list
Anglo-Irish 1167-1274 AD
Anglo-Norman 1072-1154 AD
Baltic Tribes 1050-1283 AD
Bohemian 1050-1154 AD
Bohemian 1155-1199 AD
Bohemian 1200-1319 AD
Breton 1050-1154 AD
Breton 1155-1319 AD
Bulgar (Volga) 1040-1241 AD
Cuman 1054-1179 AD
Cuman 1180-1394 AD
Danish 1050-1154 AD
Danish 1155-1199 AD
Danish 1200-1319 AD
English 1042-1065 AD
English 1066 AD
English 1155-1271 AD
Free Canton 1106-1199 AD
Free Canton 1200-1319 AD
French 1050-1154 AD
French 1155-1319 AD
German (Imperial) 1050-1154 AD
German (Imperial) 1155-1199 AD
German (Imperial) 1200-1319 AD
German (North/West) 1050-1154 AD
German (North/West) 1155-1199 AD
German (North/West) 1200-1319 AD
German (South/East) 1050-1154 AD
German (South/East) 1155-1199 AD
German (South/East) 1200-1319 AD
Hungarian 1050-1154 AD
Hungarian 1155-1199 AD
Hungarian 1200-1319 AD
Irish 1050-1130 AD
Irish 1131-1259 AD
Lithuanian 1100-1299 AD
Low Countries 1200-1274 AD
Mongol (Europe) 1223-1241 AD
Norman 1041-1071 AD
Norwegian 1050-1154 AD
Norwegian 1155-1319 AD
Polish 1058-1154 AD
Polish 1155-1199 AD
Polish 1200-1319 AD
Russian 1054-1154 AD
Russian 1155-1264 AD
Scots 1040-1051 AD
Scots (Isles and Highlands) 1050-1319 AD
Scots 1052-1154 AD
Scots 1155-1161 AD
Scots 1162-1319 AD
Swedish 1050-1154 AD
Swedish 1155-1319 AD
Tatar 1242-1339 AD
Teutonic Order 1226-1319 AD
Welsh 1050-1099 AD
Welsh (North) 1100-1295 AD
Welsh (South) 1100-1197 AD

Note: the armies in bold text are from those nations that have an exemption from the “one army per nation in each division” rule and they will be allowed two armies in any division provided they are from different time periods. They are the Germans and the Scots. You may only pick one army from either of these 2 groups.

Themed Event

Instructions

This section will have a Seleucid theme for Season 10.

Matches in this section are played to a tighter schedule and must be prioritised above matches from other sections. A full schedule of matches will be published before the tournament opens on February 1st. Either player may set up the challenge in this section. Remember to PM your opponent as well as placing the challenge and password in this thread. The group stage matches will be completed in the first 5 weeks of the competition, the knock-out matches will be allowed around 18 days for completion in the second half of the season. Unfinished matches will be subject to adjudication.

As usual,12 players will constitute a pool, which will be divided into 4 qualifying groups of 3 players. At the group stage players will play each other in mirror matches so the total of individual battles played by each player will be 4. Only the winner of each group will proceed to the knock-out stage, which will consist of semi-finals and final (again using mirror matches).

Where players finish with the same number of points at the end of the group stage, the points aggregate from the matches between those players will be used to decide the final places in the group table. If this does not separate the players then lots will be drawn to determine which player proceeds to the next stage of the competition.

New players to the FOG2DL will not be initially eligible for this section (but this may change later if recruitment is opened up for a second pool of 12).

Note: all armies are 1600 points in this section.

The historical match-ups for this season are as follows . . .

Group stage (players will get 2 of these pairings)
1) Seleucids v Antigonids (based on battles between 311-309BC and again in 301BC)
2) Seleucids v Indians (Invasion of India 305-303BC)
3) Seleucids v Pergamenes (based on battle in 238BC)

Knock-out stage
1) Seleucids v Ptolemaics (based on battle of 198BC)
2) Seleucids v Romans (based on battles of 191-190 BC)

The Rules are here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101085
The Guide is here . . . viewtopic.php?f=501&t=101087

Please just post your user name in this thread if you wish to enter this section.

I have set up the recruitment threads this morning ready for next Monday. Recruitment to the High Middle Ages section will not start until Thursday 4th February, the day the game is released. This section will be run here in this forum with all the other sections in order to keep the tournament together. I will put a "sticky" over in the FOG2 Medieval forum on 4/2 directing players here. Hopefully we will pick up some new players by doing this.

Please also note that from this season onwards players will be required to express a preference for either 1200 points or 1600 points in all sections of the tournament . The default sizes of battles are as follows . . .

Classical Antiquity and Late Antiquity - 1600 points
Biblical, Early Middle Ages and High Middle Ages - 1200 points
Themed Event (Season 10) - 1600 points

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Tue Jan 12, 2021 12:05 pm I have set up the recruitment threads this morning ready for next Monday. Recruitment to the High Middle Ages section will not start until Thursday 4th February, the day the game is released. This section will be run here in this forum with all the other sections in order to keep the tournament together. I will put a "sticky" over in the FOG2 Medieval forum on 4/2 directing players here. Hopefully we will pick up some new players by doing this.

Please also note that from this season onwards players will be required to express a preference for either 1200 points or 1600 points in all sections of the tournament . The default sizes of battles are as follows . . .

Classical Antiquity and Late Antiquity - 1600 points
Biblical, Early Middle Ages and High Middle Ages - 1200 points
Themed Event (Season 10) - 1600 points

Asking now already: if a player doesn't express a preference, will he be interpreted to favour default size or to be indifferent between 1200 and 1600 FP?

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:49 pm Asking now already: if a player doesn't express a preference, will he be interpreted to favour default size or to be indifferent between 1200 and 1600 FP?

Default size.

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:54 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:49 pm Asking now already: if a player doesn't express a preference, will he be interpreted to favour default size or to be indifferent between 1200 and 1600 FP?

Default size.

If you enter with default size can you later choose to play a particular game at the non-default size if that is that player's choice?

Cunningcairn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:00 am

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:54 pm

kronenblatt wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:49 pm Asking now already: if a player doesn't express a preference, will he be interpreted to favour default size or to be indifferent between 1200 and 1600 FP?

Default size.

If you enter with default size can you later choose to play a particular game at the non-default size if that is that player's choice?

No, just stick to your stated preference please otherwise some players will get confused about the rules.

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:59 am

Cunningcairn wrote: ↑Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:00 am

stockwellpete wrote: ↑Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:54 pm

Default size.

If you enter with default size can you later choose to play a particular game at the non-default size if that is that player's choice?

No, just stick to your stated preference please otherwise some players will get confused about the rules.

OK no problem.

Hi, I''m also interested

I would like to join please.

Sign me up.

1-Dailami 928-1055 AD + Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008 AD
2-Arab (Abbasid) 874-946 AD + Arab (Syria/Iraq) 890-1008 AD
3-Viking 900-1049 AD + French 888-1049 AD
4-Polish 966-1057 AD + Viking 900-1049 AD

1600 pts.

Armies checked, OK 27/1