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Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:56 pm
by jjdenver
Plaid wrote:trulster wrote:
Cool, denying the Germans 6 PP per turn is definitely worth "losing" one GAR for the Brits.
Its not GAR, its paratrooper. You will not even be able to recruit new one, as this will not be destroyed and still will occupy limit, and you dont have this many british paratroops (you get first in 1942 and in 1944 its like 3 I believe).
Also you can deny all same PPs (yes, less effectively) only parking few naval units near Norway.
What does this mean? Where and how many naval units do u park? And why is it less effective?
Again great AAR. I feel like I should be paying a subscription fee to read this thing haha.
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:08 pm
by richardsd
a bit of oops this turn as I competed it after too much wine
its a bit ragged (a few mistakes etc..) but here are the afters for the area's of operation
I am sure he will swap teh GAR back, but I should have a good shot at eliminating it in one turn in fair weather

Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:05 am
by richardsd
ok, here we go - the real deal 1942 version!
in Norway Morris swapped the GAR into Oslo as expected
elsewhere its here he comes - in all three directions
and what is in here
in Norway we take Oslo as expected
in the North we take Novogorod and upgrade some Moscow defences
in the South we nibble an ARM but really we retreat slightly so he has to move twice to get the oil!
in Europe we expand our bombing to take the second synth plant to orange and hit Berlin for 2 PP's
and we start phase two of our string startegy - summer holiday in Portugal

Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:51 am
by richardsd
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:13 am
by Cybvep
He is attacking everywhere, but because of that he overstretched himself. I think you can cause serious damage if you concentrate the bulk of your army in one place and push forward.
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:33 pm
by richardsd
I am trying

its just that the army is still well down on tech (Russian scientist have been useless, in fact so have the Brits both of which has been annoying - but to be fair the US scientist have done well) and I haven't been able to afford any extra's as the convoys have been very small so far
the next turn should allow me some leeway as a decent convoy will hit murmansk

and I have finished upgrading the existing units
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:56 am
by richardsd
we detect a change! Morris is swinging from Omsk to try and help the Moscow encirclement, in the South he continues forward but I seem to have messed up the screen shots
in the North we put in place the planned eastern flank
in the south we execute operation 'max' an (almost) all out assualt

the south will be our major area off offensive operations - this is mostly because it gets us closer to Berlin than if we attack around Moscow
eslewhere the Portuguese continue to fight like demons, 7 attacks and I only reduce them by 4 steps
and in Europe Morris moves to protect Berlin, never mind we split and take 3 PP's from Berlin and 2 from Paris
and we finally sink a BB in the Med with our nibbling operations

Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:23 am
by zechi
Why did you invade Portugal? I can't see any advantage in it, as Spain is neutral.
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:43 am
by richardsd
zechi wrote:Why did you invade Portugal? I can't see any advantage in it, as Spain is neutral.
you will see, although probably later than expected
it is part of stretching his defence and internal lines
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:07 pm
by Crazygunner1
It looks like he is trying to march on Moscow, be careful he doesnt take the backdoor to Moscow from 2 directions and sorounds it. That could make things difficult...i would suggest that you station shock army in his flank as soon as he tries to advance on Moscow the backdoor, you can hit him in the flank where it hurts, just make sure you got some supporting infantry units as well.
Also looks like you could have a nice opportunity in the south to encircle some troops
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:30 am
by supermax
richardsd wrote:I am trying

its just that the army is still well down on tech (Russian scientist have been useless, in fact so have the Brits both of which has been annoying - but to be fair the US scientist have done well) and I haven't been able to afford any extra's as the convoys have been very small so far
the next turn should allow me some leeway as a decent convoy will hit murmansk

and I have finished upgrading the existing units
Exactly. What i would do is counter attack across the front and let your attacks find a whole. You have 2 nice opportunity tom disturb<s Moriss offensive. Caucasus and Leningrad area.
Simple. Rail some troops in the Leningrad viscinity and push super hard towards Germany. moriss will have to react. The obvious place where he will take troops to respond are in the Caucasus. Then, moscow, its obvious he wont make a move there till 1943 at the least. When he srats removing troops from those 2 areas, then hit him with a Moscow offensive. Also combine some diversionnary landing in France and an attack on Italy. This would stop his drive towards Omk without even having to confrint him.
In any cases, you are doing well!
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:53 am
by richardsd
supermax wrote:richardsd wrote:I am trying

its just that the army is still well down on tech (Russian scientist have been useless, in fact so have the Brits both of which has been annoying - but to be fair the US scientist have done well) and I haven't been able to afford any extra's as the convoys have been very small so far
the next turn should allow me some leeway as a decent convoy will hit murmansk

and I have finished upgrading the existing units
Exactly. What i would do is counter attack across the front and let your attacks find a whole. You have 2 nice opportunity tom disturb<s Moriss offensive. Caucasus and Leningrad area.
Simple. Rail some troops in the Leningrad viscinity and push super hard towards Germany. moriss will have to react. The obvious place where he will take troops to respond are in the Caucasus. Then, moscow, its obvious he wont make a move there till 1943 at the least. When he srats removing troops from those 2 areas, then hit him with a Moscow offensive. Also combine some diversionnary landing in France and an attack on Italy. This would stop his drive towards Omk without even having to confrint him.
In any cases, you are doing well!
yikes, this is very close to the actual plan, which is supposed to be top secret

Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:55 am
by richardsd
Crazygunner1 wrote:It looks like he is trying to march on Moscow, be careful he doesnt take the backdoor to Moscow from 2 directions and sorounds it. That could make things difficult...i would suggest that you station shock army in his flank as soon as he tries to advance on Moscow the backdoor, you can hit him in the flank where it hurts, just make sure you got some supporting infantry units as well.
Also looks like you could have a nice opportunity in the south to encircle some troops
if he comes forward again in the south he will get encircled

- surely not even Morris will attack again!
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:47 pm
by ncali
Looks to me like you're in great shape. You're demonstrating the weaknesses of Morris's offensive strategy.
On to Berlin (eventually)!
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:47 pm
by richardsd
so not even Morris would come forward in the South!
looks like he is going all out for Moscow
in the south our counter attack continues, but some of the combat outcomes were a bit nasty for us

oh well, thats fortunes of war
in the north we begin forming our very russian counter attack
elswhere the bombing continues
and Portugal finally falls

Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 10:56 pm
by Cybvep
Looks good. Morris will have to abandon his plans for Moscow unless he has a strong reserve, which is doubtful. Soon you should be able to start your massive offensive.
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 3:45 am
by richardsd
so the worm turns in July (well probably)
Morris reacts to my flanking around Moscow and you can see the effect with several weaker units in the Moscow front line (GAR and Italian CORP)
in the south he continues to retreat
in Europe Morris reacts a little to the partisan that popped up and moves a GAR I have been straffing (but not by rail, maybe his rail was cap was over too much?)
So we have some decisions in the North and South, do we follow up, wait a turn to regain strength - what to do
So in the south we decide its better to reinforce our ARM and MECH so they can continue to pursue next turn, but we follow up as best we can with our CORP's and one MECH
in the north we go all out, maybe Morris will stay and counter attack as he could do a lot of damage, that works for us
in the med we get a nasty combat result and our sniping US SUB is smacked

still we find a SUB with our DD as we commence sweeps of the med
in Europe, yes you guessed it - more bombing

Paris red, Berlin yellow and the first look at mainland Europe around Denmark
we also eliminated the weakened GAR that he didn't rail
next turn could be interesting!
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:39 am
by richardsd
ok, so Morris continues to respond to my stretch, but also tries a few counter attacks - this is good, we want him Russia for winter and we can afford combat exchanges now
in the North
and south
a partisan pops up which shows a few Italian units
in the South we plough on, bloody exhanges are ok by us!
in the north - all out attack, even though we could get cut off
actually, in general our combats have been rubbish for the last two turns and we have left a few 1-2-3 step units grrr
in Europe we continue to bomb and land in Denmark (Berlin in orange now

)
we also do some distracting to stretch him a bit

Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:41 am
by richardsd
Re: Can we save the Bear, Richardsd vs Morris (no Morris ple
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:35 pm
by richardsd
we arrive at the last guarenteed fair turn in Russia - which signals a brain explosion for us in South Russia - and no excuse either
so here is the start, of note is Morris counter attack in Denmark
in the North we continue to punch and build, this is where we will push in winter (well push everywhere but strong here)
in the south we mess up badly
we are destroying each other in Russia, we believe this is in our favour, lets have a look at the casualties
I don't really know if this is good or bad, but we have killed a lot of Axis in 42
we repsond in Denmark, our goal of stringing him out is working well here

although our Para's take a beating
in Spain we push on but mess up the screen shot