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Locarnus wrote: ↑Wed Apr 20, 2022 10:30 amHm, I double checked and everything is set up exactly the same as for all the older downloads.
Probably some algorithm malfunction on the bitly side. I asked them for the reason of this blocking, but so far no answer. Not sure I'll get one.
Until they resolve their issue, this is the direct link to the dropbox download:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k9ko01ufligbcnc/Battlefield Europe v2.3 Locarnus 2022-04a.zip?dl=0
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/k9ko01ufligbcnc/Battlefield%20Europe%20v2.3%20Locarnus%202022-04a.zip?dl=0I applied this fix / upgrade....I am hoping this is ready for me to try Gazala? Hoping to get time soon to flesh that amazing scenario out. Let me know. ThanksLocarnus wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 6:50 pm Sorry for the bitly issues and thank you for the help, unfortunately they still have not answered or corrected their issue.
So below I'll publish another bugfix and AK rebalancing patch, based on the feedback by JanD and goose_2. I do not know when I will have more time, for a larger content patch (expanding the AK compatibility to some of the "fictional winning path" scenarios).
2022-04b Bugfix Download: https://bit.ly/3MFTEBx
- JanD (AAR replays in the AAR forum) provided another invaluably detailed list of inconsistencies and bugs, which are fixed with this patch
- From inconsistencies between switchable/tropical units (some even involving movement discrepancies) to missing links and upgrade groups
Based on that list by JanD and his AAR replays, as well as the youtube playthrough by goose_2, additional changes were made:
- German and Italian recon rebalancing (especially regarding rate of fire), including Kradschützen and Sahariana (less ground defense, now is a soft target)
- Semovente 75/** have more ammo
- Italian MC.205 Veltro fighter is split into an early version without 20mm armament and a later version with 20mm (instead of the 7.7mm MGs)
- Several smaller changes
- AK "Dash to the Wire" scenario only provides StuG III and Panzer IV reward units, only one of them depends on destroying all hangars (positions are now marked)
- AK campaign provides earlier (non-tropical) version of Bf 109 at "Brevity" turn 3?, to compensate for not getting one at Dash
- AK "Ras el Mdauuar" scenario provides the player with additional Italian artillery units (100/17 and 75/18)
- The 100/17 can be upgraded to "Lancia da 100/17" later on and the 149/19 is available earlier (eg as an out of family upgrade for the 75/18)
- AK "Recon in Force" Italian starting arty was changed (to 105/28)
- AK "Kasserine Pass" Valentine capture unit is now core instead of aux
- AK several prestige adjustments to compensate for the additional core unit gifts above
And just in case bitly messes up again, the direct link to dropbox for the 2022-04b patch above:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0o7r98q5usdtg ... b.zip?dl=0
Thank you for the icons, it adds a lot to the great unit variety which is so typical for the German army at that time!guille1434 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 6:43 pm The 8,8 cm Bunkerflak: I like the way you implemented the integration of the unit, with one switch for AT class and the other for the Tank class. When I tested it with an artillery switch, it felt almost like cheating. So, I find it more appropiate the use you implemented for this unit.
Great icons as always, I'll add them in the next patch. The idea for the He-111 differentiation came when watching the Afrika Korps with Addon playthrough by goose_2. He bought a He-111 while not yet being aware that the He-177 was not any longer in the same upgrade group. So the He-111 H16 is imho a worthy update and also offers the choice of a more defensible strat bomber, compared to the switchable and thus more versatile Ju-88 lineup.guille1434 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 6:43 pm I like VERY much the idea of implementing a late variant for the He-111 bomber (H-16 sub-variant)! It adds a nice "family upgrade" option for the early war He-111H-2. The family upgrade from the He-111 to the He-177 was just completely illogical as both aircraft had not a single nut and bolt in common, so to speak. I made different icon for both variants (He-111H-2 and the late H-16) in case you want to differentiate them. The two variants were very much similar looking, but I found some differences: the H-16 variant has a dorsal circular defensive turret which looked snaller that the earlier variant defensive post with the elongated, non-rotating canopy. I also added all of the fuselage windows (four of them) to the earlier variant, while in the later one, the two central windows were faired over with sheet metal. I hope you like them.
Ah, good idea with the different ammo capacity. High ammo is one of the general advantages of MG armed aircraft in Warthunder as well. If you find the time for the Wings with cannons, I'd gladly include those icons. Though I will have to check with the animations as well, so not sure when I can do that given the already long to-do for the next patch and the limited time at the moment.guille1434 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 6:43 pm Another good idea, similar in concept, was to add the early machine gun armed variant for the M.C.205V (serie I) and the later, cannon armed variant for this aircraft (serie III). May be as you increased the Air Attack value for the cannon armed variant (which is logical), you can increase the ammo value for the machine gun armed variant. I could not find hard data about the ammo capacity of both variants, but I would think that the machine gun armed could have more rounds on board as the machine gun bullets were much smaller than the cannon shells. If you like it, it would be not a problem to add cannon to the wings of the MC.205V late variant icons.
Great, will include it in next patch!guille1434 wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 6:43 pm Italian medium trucks: I saw that you implemented the Fiat 626 which is historically correct, but the icon used is still the odd "Italian Opel Blitz" one. I have a nice, vanilla looking Fiat 626 icon to replace the Opel one, which I think will increase the "eye candy" value to the mod...
Yes, should work out well for Gazala, if you apply the patch and then load the savegame at the end of the previous scenario (end of Second Offensive)!
Thank you very much, I'm looking forward to all the new icons you create!guille1434 wrote: ↑Tue May 03, 2022 10:04 pm Hello Locarnus:
Thanks for your comments and answers to all the members postings... About the icons I mentioned:
- The Fiat 626 icons are attached here. I will try to make a similar animation of a soldier firing from the truck side window (like the original Panzer General animation) just like the one I made for the German Opel truck, in case you want to give the trucks a negative soft attack value, to defend themselves when attacked
- M.C. 205V: I will make the icons for the cannon armed variant, together with its animation.
Thanks and keep the great improvements coming!
guille1434 wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 12:12 pm About artillery units range, I designed the attached table, which seems to work reasonable well, bearing in mind that Pz Corps maps are not made in a fixed scale, so the range of the different units, I think, are not "absolute", but "relative". I know that seems illogical that a gun with 9500 m range has an in-game range of two hexes, and one with 10200 has a three hex range, but the boundary has to be placed at some value... I think that the important objective is that the player finds the difference between a gun that has a 9 or 10 km range and another (generally more expensive unit) which can fire up to, say, 15/16 km...
Hm, I think that there is an interesting option for rebalancing artillery. Unfortunately it would require extensive testing as well as some other modifications (including movement). Though at the moment I simply do not have the time to do that properly.goose_2 wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 12:39 pm The thing I found most surprising in my playthrough is the devastating effect of those well placed artillery. They make frontal assaults pointless and as such require overhaul of your playstyle. It was something unexpected in my playthrough or at least the first half. Based on our discussion during my broadcast I am going to restart the battle and try it again with a better plan of attack. I think the hings we discussed along with a few other minor tweaks and I think we may have something really going on this battle.
Hm, interesting.guille1434 wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 12:12 pm - About the MC.205V fighter: I found info about the ammo loads of the machine gun and cannon armed variants of said fighter, it is in italian but it is pretty easy to figure out the information:
From: https://svppbellum.blogspot.com/2019/01 ... eltro.html
"Le mitragliatrici calibro 12,7 mm erano disposte appaiate in caccia con tiro sincronizzato attraverso il disco dell'elica con 370 proiettili per arma e due Breda-SAFAT calibro 7,7 mm alari con 500 munizioni per arma. A partire dalla Serie III, le mitragliatici alari furono sostituite da due cannoni Mauser MG 151/20A da 20 mm con 250 colpi per arma."
In plain English: both variants had the nose mounted 12,7 mm machine guns with 370 rounds per weapon, and additionally the Serie I machines had a pair of wing mounted 7,7 mg with 500 rounds each, and the late serie III variant had those two wing mounted rifle caliber machine guns replaced by two 20 mm MG 151 cannon with 250 rounds per weapon. So, I think the ammo values of those two variants would be 9 for the machine gun variant and 6 for the cannon armed one, or a set of values keeping that proportion.
The icons for both variants (which are, basically, the same, except for the cannon barrels protruding from their wings leading edge), will be ready very soon.
Thank you but no worries, it fits a bit more with the 8.8 cm Bunkerflak when watching goose_2 videos.guille1434 wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 12:12 pm - Autocannone Lancia 3ro da 100/17: the icon posted by Birgeria in his thread looked very familiar to me... Casually, I found that I made that unit, and I have the base icon and mask for it, so I can paint it with any color you like... But, as you correctly pointed out, it does not blends well with the rest of the "vanilla"" looking icons, so I will make a little re-work on it. I found some good internet images to start with.
FM Rommel certainly turned out harder than expected, also due to the fact that overstrength is more expensive with BE (which was not designed for elite replacements between scenarios). I lowered that a bit for the next version.goose_2 wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 12:39 pm Thanks by the way for your feedback and discussion with Jan. It has given me so much insight on ideas to play differently and I hope will be more successful.
I think the way the battle of Gazala is now set up with the greater range artillery is actually probably more in line with what the developers were going for in the deployment and distribution of the assets on the allied side, but for some reason the developers limited the range of artillery to anemic levels.
Afrika Korps continues to be my favorite of all of the original campaigns, and your tweaks with the basic structure have added so much new life to this classic I really hope more people check it out.
I that for most players Rommel alone is difficulty enough. I am finding the Field Marshall + Rommel combo extremely difficult in my playthrough. But I am a bit of a sadist so I will trudge on.
It is an amazing game, even for its age!
I guess the main reason is, that towed units and infantry (and planes) are displayed from another angle than most vehicles in PzC.Locarnus wrote: ↑Sat May 14, 2022 8:43 pm Thank you but no worries, it fits a bit more with the 8.8 cm Bunkerflak when watching goose_2 videos.
So I'd happily use it with a bit more browning color scheme like the towed Italian guns.
No priority for that rework (especially if it takes dev time away from that Jagd Sturmtiger 8.8cm assault gun variant you proposed).
Whoops, Italy and Slovakia should not be farmable. Will correct that.eskuche wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 7:47 pm Two "issues" (or working as designed, or an issue for the main mod, not you): you can farm the Italian cities in the interlude missions for prestige, intended? Also, it is said that overstrength doesn't carry over to the main scenario from the tutorial missions, but in fact it does.
Wow, FM Rommel for BE?eskuche wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 7:47 pm Edit: realized I misplayed and redid the whole setup from scratch! Playing Rommel FM, XPd up two Ju88s that I doubled converted to BF110s on the last interlude, for a final core of 3 x 2.5-star Bf109 F-4 (initiative, 2 defense, and 2 attack heroes) and 2 x 2.5-star Bf110, and the starting tank hero as a StuG. Final prestige of 2 after the free cities during interludes. This is after maximizing experience by taking every single turn (I looked and decisive victory doesn't net you much). There is too little experience to try to get from 5 fighters, and the Ju88s leveled up much faster as indirect fire. Looking back, you could also nab some Condors or even another K5 instead...hmm...
Totally understandable. I took something of a break from BE as well, with Africa Corps.guille1434 wrote: ↑Sun May 15, 2022 12:49 pm I have not forgotten about the Jagd Sturmtiger... The problem was that I had dedicated so many time and effort (for a single unit) making the original Sturmtiger, that I got a little burnt-out about seeing those vehicles, but don't worry, that unit icon is already started, and I will finish it soon.
Not QUITE sure I'm understanding you, but I was under the impression that the reserves were cleared after every deploy and that money wasn't taken into the main scenario from the preludes (Goose_2's Youtube video showed him carrying over 2900, though).Locarnus wrote: ↑Tue May 17, 2022 5:23 pmWhoops, Italy and Slovakia should not be farmable. Will correct that.
Not sure how to fix the overstrength issue. Worked better when there were no "interludes". But now there is little incentive to deploy units and I do not know how to influence the reserve units (I guess forcing the player to deploy is an option, but that is not an elegant solution either). I can at least fix the issue in case the player deploys his units, but waits out the turns (instead of "capturing" Hannover).