Slitherine

Rom1944 wrote:div c

Rom1944(early aragon) 21/38 vs Voskarp (ordenance french) 50/47

Ouch! It still hurts...

Fogman

Not sure I agree completely.

It is part of the game, these so called "horde" armies aren't too difficult to beat if you play well. I am not going to give away the secret of my success versus such armies but they are beatable. Maybe there is an element of psychology involved. I think in a numer of historical battles (Alexander vs Darius?), an army would look enormous to scare the opposition but consisted predominantly of mediocre or worse troops. That might be affecting players as well. Near enough in everything, if you are "negged" (negative) out at the start, you are prob going to lose or not do well.

You have to anticipate some large armies and build an army to take that out.

Having said that and I belive this to be true. Winning initiative gives the player a big advantage, larger armies generally win games, bad match ups and who is using what are the major factors.

Stick to it, until you find the way to beat such armies. Take it as a challenge. I believe you are good enough to win, it just takes a bit of time.

Div A

I'm feeling like a good wiping to sharped my focus .... Eric_Doman I choose you. Let your Bunyips loose!

pasword = bunyip

Yes, that's how I say Buyids

Cheers, Claymore

Div A

hidde(Late Republican Roman) 13/38
rexhurley(Pyrrhic in Italy) 49/42

How else could it end? Elite & superior legionaries against average (and some poor) pikes...
I'll take notes though, of my elites continuing poor performance. Of five routed legionarie BGs, four were elite
They will have to pull their act together before it is time to meet the superior spears and pikes of several armies left to face.

Div C challenge for:

Razorback77, Late Syracusan 275-211BC

Password: boar

/Alexander

I agree with Eric over a large army psyching out an opponent. I am (in)famous for fielding a 112ap 500pt Jewish Revolt army in LOEG. A lot of my opponents thought they couldnt win and I even offered to resign or change army because I too thought they were invincible! In the end Eric said persuaded me to keep them and they actually lost about half their battles.

Horde armies can be beaten. I'm not sure exactly what Eric's tactic is, but mine is to target one section of the enemy battle line while refusing/skirmishing against the other. Another mistake that newer players make is to pick all the elite troops from a list and ignore the average or poorly equipped ones. This makes their armies too small and unable to soak up casualties. My advise would be to ditch one or two of those 20pt Knights and pick 4x 5pt MF instead. In most games its not the head on clashes that win battles, its who gets more of their troops into rear-charge positions.

ianiow wrote: I am (in)famous for fielding a 112ap 500pt Jewish Revolt army in LOEG.

It was 119, not 112...I've checked May I add that you suffered 135BP losses at the hand of my Dacians
And good advice on how to take on the hordes. Would say that's my approach as well.

I have beaten large armies, even the infamous nubians with their superior archers. the problem is that you charge into a nubian archer and you may get hit with 25% casualties. you eventually run out of break points. if the break points are revised to take into account the quality of the army, then it would more historical and fairer. Right now i feel the rules disproportionately favour large armies. when i win with them, i don't feel like i have done anything clever in particular, when i lose against them i don't feel like i was beaten by superior generalship.

when i don't feel too clever, my method for beating a large army is to go large also! problem is i don't know what to do with a large army that fills up the map. it takes away creativity.

batesmotel (Macedonian Successor) 34/43
rexhurley (Pyrrhicn in Italy) 43/42

A serious fight for the crown of the worst dice, but in the end Pyrrhus successfully proved the more unlucky . Thanks for a good game.

Chris

Div B

Steve-h8/ Maurikian Byzantine 20/36
v
Iandavidsmith/ Early Crusader 1096 – 1097 AD 41/40

Div B challenge

Have setup 3 more games, anyone.
Password steve-h8

Cheers and good luck
Steve

Div B

Ironclad (Early Alan) 34/37 vs Epos (Early Ostrogothic) 41/41

Very close match throughout with the Alans just sneaking it enthused by their successful looting of the enemy camp.

Div C

French Ordonnance [20/47] vs Porsenna, Swedish [34/34]

Division C

Solly (Cilician Armenian later) 56/59 vs Fogman (Medieval German later) %3/51

Div C

Flatsix518 (Principate Romans) 22/35 vs okie (Palmyrans) 31/30

Tough, bloody fight. I was lucky to win...

solly wrote:Division C

Solly (Cilician Armenian later) 56/59 vs Fogman (Medieval German later) %3/51

that would be Germans 53/51

I was hoping for a tie after my commander was killed fighting archers and fatally weakened my left wing. I ran out of time as he had 4 fragmented BGs at the end of the game and I had troop poised to loot his camp. If Solly gets initiative he'll go 9-0 in this division.

Doh! I got it, now.

flatsix518 the thick...

Not just you...