Slitherine

davidandlynda wrote:Not allowing Steppe terrain may work
David

Nope. Agricultural is just as good, and sometimes better for shooty armies and pretty neutral for lancer type horse boys.

I won the PBI in all 4 games at Derby and picked Steppe twice and Agricultural twice - the latter both against follow horse armies.

I notice that Early Ach. Persian the was used by several players in this event included the runner up. Would anyone care to share any of the lists or tactics used? I am very interested in this army myself. There appears to be a number of ways to run this list.

Cheers
Paul.

Ours was:

1 CinC Troop Commander
2 Sub-Gen Troop Commander

8 Kaspian Archers Light Foot Unprotected Poor Undrilled Bow
4 Horse Archers Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow
4 Bactrian Cavalry Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow Light Spear
4 Greek Javelinmen Light Foot Unprotected Poor Undrilled Javelins Light Spear
4 Saka Cavalry Light Horse Unprotected Average Undrilled Bow Swordsmen
3 Persian Foot Medium Foot Protected Average Undrilled Bow Light Spear
3 Persian Foot Medium Foot Protected Average Undrilled Bow
3 Persian Foot Medium Foot Protected Average Undrilled Bow Light Spear
3 Persian Foot Medium Foot Protected Average Undrilled Bow
8 Greek Hoplites Heavy Foot Armoured Average Undrilled Offensive Spearmen
8 Greek Hoplites Heavy Foot Armoured Average Undrilled Offensive Spearmen
8 Immortals Medium Foot Armoured Superior Drilled Bow Light Spear
8 Immortals Medium Foot Armoured Superior Drilled Bow Light Spear
4 Persian Cavalry Cavalry Armoured Superior Undrilled Bow Swordsmen
4 Persian Cavalry Cavalry Armoured Superior Undrilled Bow Swordsmen

Kevin

nikgaukroger wrote:

davidandlynda wrote:Not allowing Steppe terrain may work
David

Nope. Agricultural is just as good, and sometimes better for shooty armies and pretty neutral for lancer type horse boys.

I won the PBI in all 4 games at Derby and picked Steppe twice and Agricultural twice - the latter both against follow horse armies.

I lost the PBI in every game and ended up in Hilly against a Catalan company at least once. It didn't make that much difference to me IMO.

Before the competition Peter Card worked out every teams ELO-score. It would be interesting to see how that compared to their final finishing place. The Oxford team came joint 11th and our ELO-score suggested 12 not far of in our case.

I am having trouble up loading the table so will send it to Hammy.

Thanks for a great competition.

Bob

Nooooooo. He doesn't need any encouragement. He's done it already. For all the teams. Both ELO and BHGS rankings.

viking123 wrote:Before the competition Peter Card worked out every teams ELO-score.

Is this something to do with outdated 70s music?

philqw78 wrote:Nooooooo. He doesn't need any encouragement. He's done it already. For all the teams. Both ELO and BHGS rankings.

I didn't do that, Ruddock did.

hammy wrote:I didn't do that, Ruddock did.

I'm confused now. You're not to blame and its not your fault. Dave can't be correct! It would be sacrilege. I'm going back to measuring infinity.

Blimey, this has proved harder than I thought it would.

Bob asked me to post this. After a bit of prodding and poking, here it is.

hammy wrote:Bob asked me to post this.

This is drivel giving Ellis a better score than his team mates

titanu wrote:

hammy wrote:Bob asked me to post this.

This is drivel giving Ellis a better score than his team mates

Not score, the number is the pre tournament ranking.

I will see if I can get a nice spreadsheet of the team results but they are all on the Hall of Honour now anyway.

To me FOG works best if it is entirely open or heavily themed, but an in the middle choice is not as good as either of those.

On the periods: I think theming needs to be rather careful about what is in, so you either exclude certains armies (e.g. WftS only minus Magyar), or you need to limit army design which then limits army choice (Max 16 Cv + LH for instance). Either will create a good Dark Ages period for next year and I would thne bring my Vikings!

If period 2 was more decisive it would be because it was shooty vs shooty which does tend to get results as they can't run away from each other - I had 4 "results".

Steppes issue is a bit of a myth in my opinion as most of these armies are very hard to deal with by largely foot armies - even in a desert!

Rankings clearly work well ... authors scores very much in line with pre tournament rankings!!

Si

What does MAWS stand for and where do they play?

devilforrest wrote:What does MAWS stand for and where do they play?

Manchester Area W**k*** Society?

devilforrest wrote:What does MAWS stand for and where do they play?

North West Manchester http://www.maws.org.uk for the club website

titanu wrote:

devilforrest wrote:What does MAWS stand for and where do they play?

Manchester Area W**k*** Society?

Tut tut..................

They don't play badly for a Walking Society. Just as well for the rest of us that they don't focus on Wargaming. Maybe it's the influence of their ringer.

Do they do lots of drinking? If so, it must the influence of the ringer... :)

davidandlynda wrote:Not allowing Steppe terrain may work
David

I still think a date and area would be best if you want undrilled HF armies.

But mind undrilled HF can't do much but move forward so there'd be dice every where, but if thats what you want.