Slitherine

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:22 am

Uhu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:40 am Great storytelling, please continue!
Pete is right about the xp loose system oof the airforce.
In previous screenshots I sill saw un-upgraded panzers like Pz35, Pz38. Why no upgrade? They would be much more potent even as PzIII (...and soon as Panther A). It is because not enough prestige?
I always rename my hero units already at the start, like 34. GebJäger +2A, and also the arty like 4. Arty (horse+), or 7. PzGren (Mot-7)

Not enough prestige, I dont think I will be able to upgrade shortly..
Situation is tough we are hanging between loss, draw or a difficult marginal.
Prestige lost in 1941 ! to much spending to strengthen naval units

PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:34 am

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:24 am Turn 55 Tiger I joins the battle in Leningrad

bev2-turn-55-lenin.JPG

If you strat bomb the forts and/or tanks out of ammo, you can also use an 8.8 to break through... the trick is to be able to move the 8.8 into firing range, i.e. close enough without getting it heavily damaged by SU artillery fire though...

I still wonder if moving the Flammpanzer to Finland early on works better, i.e. to capture Leningrad from the north

PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:02 am The Po river might be easier instead of Gustav Line (at least until winter)

PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:36 am

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:31 am Turn 56 new AT unit offered to be upgraded later

bev2-turn-56-new-unit.JPG

ps 15 turns later still not be able to upgrade it... I miss something

Are you saying it is not working? What exactly did you do (and how)?

Maybe best to ask McGuba

Uhu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:36 am As I see there is a possibility to somehow counter the Allies in the west, destroy Stalin and make a minor victory at the end.
I would build my defense at the Lubljana - Fiume line. Allies can then come one unit at once and also Allied naval units cannot really much interfere. (Although a few inf unit can slip through tha Alps, but they can be contained.) On the south French site I would build it at Montpellier/Rhone river, because this region will be anyway lost to Op. Cobra. Dijon and east of Vichy could be the nothern defense point.
And try to hold the defense after d-day at least at Paris. In that way, you still have the chance to launch the V-missiles, which could bring a lot of prestige!

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:35 am

PeteMitchell wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:34 am

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:24 am Turn 55 Tiger I joins the battle in Leningrad

bev2-turn-55-lenin.JPG

If you strat bomb the forts and/or tanks out of ammo, you can also use an 8.8 to break through... the trick is to be able to move the 8.8 into firing range, i.e. close enough without getting it heavily damaged by SU artillery fire though...

I still wonder if moving the Flammpanzer to Finland early on works better, i.e. to capture Leningrad from the north

Thanks for commenting, I agree with your idea about 88, Goose also used it.
I took the StuG since is more capable of dealing with artillery shots
The Flamm is here on purpose to attack the infantry defenses, but from the south

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:01 am

Uhu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:36 am As I see there is a possibility to somehow counter the Allies in the west, destroy Stalin and make a minor victory at the end.
I would build my defense at the Lubljana - Fiume line. Allies can then come one unit at once and also Allied naval units cannot really much interfere. (Although a few inf unit can slip through tha Alps, but they can be contained.) On the south French site I would build it at Montpellier/Rhone river, because this region will be anyway lost to Op. Cobra. Dijon and east of Vichy could be the nothern defense point.
And try to hold the defense after d-day at least at Paris. In that way, you still have the chance to launch the V-missiles, which could bring a lot of prestige!

Well great suggestions, I have not thought any especially for south France it seems a logical plan.

Right now Iam on turn 68 and although I thought to make some defense west of Paris, it seemed to me impossible to withstand such a HUGE air force allied dominance.
How this can possible?

I am thinking (not really decide yet) to fall back to Rhine river to attempt a defense line.
There create a protection from two Flak Fortresses with 88 guns. Each fortress combines three 88s stuck together so few units can be protected... Although I doubt this will be enough.
Right now I think that the only protection is the winter to come and then if possible make an attack to regain lost ground.

Luftwaffe is evaporating...

flak-fortress.JPG

Uhu wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:20 am

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:24 am Market-Garden ??????

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:01 am I am thinking (not really decide yet) to fall back to Rhine river to attempt a defense line.
There create a protection from two Flak Fortresses with 88 guns.
Each fortress combines three or four 88s stuck together so few units can be protected... Although I doubt this will be enough.
Right now I think that the only protection is the winter to come and then if possible make an attack to regain lost ground.

Luftwaffe is evaporating...

Any more help with the situation mostly welcomed.

Below a Flak Fortress is being built by the Rhine river

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:22 am Prestige lost in 1941 ! to much spending to strengthen naval units

McGuba wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:53 am Really exciting AAR!

I hope you will manage to reach a minor victory or a draw at least. If you think that you are unable to defeat the Soviets by turn 99 maybe it is better to change your plans and try to live with a draw. That's why it is good to sometimes take a deep breath and analyse the overall situation and not just go forward turn after turn.

In case you decide for a less ambitious draw, it may be a good idea to try to hold the major objectives like the oilfields or Leningrad as long as possible because while these are in Axis hands they still reduce the number of new Soviet units appearing in the Ural.

faos333 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:22 am Prestige lost in 1941 ! to much spending to strengthen naval units

Partly because of that, in the next version there will be less prestige in the beginning, but some more units. I noted that a lot of new players go a bit too crazy with the prestige spending in the beginning only to regret it in the later stages. So I think it would be better to have less prestige in the beginning and potentially more towards the end.