Slitherine

paulmcneil wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:26 am

Macedonczyk wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:52 am I got 4 choice in EM but somehow strange I'm satisfied. It's gonna be harder but a cooler army.

Maybe solution is to send army choices to Pete with PM so nobody know what others select.

I don't take any notice of what other people post, I just make choices for armies with plenty of crash-bang-wallop to them, BUT, this is would be an interesting way of doing it.

........Or an army of slippery jellies like the Saka horse archer host you are fielding this season

This is already giving me nightmares

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:34 am

paulmcneil wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:26 am

Macedonczyk wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 2:52 am I got 4 choice in EM but somehow strange I'm satisfied. It's gonna be harder but a cooler army.

Maybe solution is to send army choices to Pete with PM so nobody know what others select.

I don't take any notice of what other people post, I just make choices for armies with plenty of crash-bang-wallop to them, BUT, this is would be an interesting way of doing it.

........Or an army of slippery jellies like the Saka horse archer host you are fielding this season

This is already giving me nightmares

Well, I suggest we review the evidence Officer: Elephants, Cataphracts, Impact warband, impact HI, Veteran Pike.....

paulmcneil wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:52 am

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:34 am

paulmcneil wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:26 am

I don't take any notice of what other people post, I just make choices for armies with plenty of crash-bang-wallop to them, BUT, this is would be an interesting way of doing it.

........Or an army of slippery jellies like the Saka horse archer host you are fielding this season

This is already giving me nightmares

Well, I suggest we review the evidence Officer: Elephants, Cataphracts, Impact warband, impact HI, Veteran Pike.....

They are but shiny baubles ....lost in the towering slag heap of a horde of crazed horse archers..... Biblical division B has not seen the like before

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 7:03 am

paulmcneil wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:52 am

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 6:34 am


........Or an army of slippery jellies like the Saka horse archer host you are fielding this season

This is already giving me nightmares

Well, I suggest we review the evidence Officer: Elephants, Cataphracts, Impact warband, impact HI, Veteran Pike.....

They are but shiny baubles ....lost in the towering slag heap of a horde of crazed horse archers..... Biblical division B has not seen the like before

It's a fair cop Ossifer, but society is to blame.

I’ve just concluded a pre-tournament briefing with my Romans and they’ve expressed some concerns about the league starting so early.

Can you give some guidance on how social-distancing rules will apply? Surely this will advantage pikes and missile troops and my lads just want to get stuck in with some good old fashioned toe-to-toe bash and stab melée. Will they have to wear face masks? Will any testing be done before, during or after the battles? What is the new track and trace regime, is that just something to do with chariots?

Will our cavalry be permitted an unchallenged 30 mile raid into enemy territory prior to a battle to test their eyesight and fitness to ride? Can they take their young sons with them? In the case of a defeat, can any of our men concerned about childcare issues travel (let’s say) 260 miles to a friendly villa, under a flag of truce?

Also, they’ve heard rumours that every battle will be televised live. Does this mean they’ll be getting a greater share of the spoils after a victory? And, in Jupiter’s name, what the Hades is television anyway?

We’re anxiously looking forward to clearer guidance on these issues, and please be aware that any incompetence on the battlefield will clearly be a consequence, not of epidemiological insecurities, but of their consul acting as commanding general.


Best Wishes

Mike
[Consul and Commanding General]

MikeMarchant wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:18 am I’ve just concluded a pre-tournament briefing with my Romans and they’ve expressed some concerns about the league starting so early.

Can you give some guidance on how social-distancing rules will apply? Surely this will advantage pikes and missile troops and my lads just want to get stuck in with some good old fashioned toe-to-toe bash and stab melée. Will they have to wear face masks? Will any testing be done before, during or after the battles? What is the new track and trace regime, is that just something to do with chariots?

Will our cavalry be permitted an unchallenged 30 mile raid into enemy territory prior to a battle to test their eyesight and fitness to ride? Can they take their young sons with them? In the case of a defeat, can any of our men concerned about childcare issues travel (let’s say) 260 miles to a friendly villa, under a flag of truce?

Also, they’ve heard rumours that every battle will be televised live. Does this mean they’ll be getting a greater share of the spoils after a victory? And, in Jupiter’s name, what the Hades is television anyway?

We’re anxiously looking forward to clearer guidance on these issues, and please be aware that any incompetence on the battlefield will clearly be a consequence, not of epidemiological insecurities, but of their consul acting as commanding general.


Best Wishes

Mike
[Consul and Commanding General]

If the Gods are pleased with our sacrifices to them Consul your Romans need have no concerns as a hopefully forested and mountainous map will mean your robotic hoard won't see my Etruscan and Samnite lightweights let alone engage in traditional Roman wrestling with them....

How do I delete this post?

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:34 am
If the Gods are pleased with our sacrifices to them Consul your Romans need have no concerns as a hopefully forested and mountainous map will mean your robotic hoard won't see my Etruscan and Samnite lightweights let alone engage in traditional Roman wrestling with them....

Ah, the good old days. We suffer such nostalgia at our victories over our Samnite and Etruscan friends. Maybe you'd like to join our Sabine colleagues and attend a friendly athletics tournament? You are, of course, very welcome to bring your women.

Best Wishes

Mike

MikeMarchant wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 9:57 am

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:34 am
If the Gods are pleased with our sacrifices to them Consul your Romans need have no concerns as a hopefully forested and mountainous map will mean your robotic hoard won't see my Etruscan and Samnite lightweights let alone engage in traditional Roman wrestling with them....

Ah, the good old days. We suffer such nostalgia at our victories over our Samnite and Etruscan friends. Maybe you'd like to join our Sabine colleagues and attend a friendly athletics tournament? You are, of course, very welcome to bring your women.

Best Wishes

Mike

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

As someone will no doubt say hundreds of years in the future when Rome lies in ruins "Armies learn only from defeat"

Rome is welcome to keep fighting the battles of the past.....our new "Alliance of the Wronged" will be trialling some shiny new tactics ......we look forward to the attempt to overturn the old order ............

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 10:45 am

MikeMarchant wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 9:57 am

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 8:34 am
If the Gods are pleased with our sacrifices to them Consul your Romans need have no concerns as a hopefully forested and mountainous map will mean your robotic hoard won't see my Etruscan and Samnite lightweights let alone engage in traditional Roman wrestling with them....

Ah, the good old days. We suffer such nostalgia at our victories over our Samnite and Etruscan friends. Maybe you'd like to join our Sabine colleagues and attend a friendly athletics tournament? You are, of course, very welcome to bring your women.

Best Wishes

Mike

Nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

As someone will no doubt say hundreds of years in the future when Rome lies in ruins "Armies learn only from defeat"

Rome is welcome to keep fighting the battles of the past.....our new "Alliance of the Wronged" will be trialling some shiny new tactics ......we look forward to the attempt to overturn the old order ............

Sadly, the Senate is a bit short of competent generals at the moment, which is why they've chosen me to command. So I fear you might be right.


Best Wishe

Mike

I don't think I have played many (if any) matches with devoncop before. Seems we will get familiar with each other this season in the various eras :p

Judging from your record and mine Swuul, you are the living embodiment of a rising Empire and I am the living embodiment of a decadent declining one....my nickname isn't Nero for nothing....

devoncop wrote: ↑Fri May 29, 2020 12:23 pm Judging from your record and mine Swuul, you are the living embodiment of a rising Empire and I am the living embodiment of a decadent declining one....my nickname isn't Nero for nothing....

I can guarantee you that I am an Old Kingdom, trying to survive amidst all these Empires around.

A bit of statistics coming your way

I have looked at the results from past seasons posted by Stockwellpete and did some basic analysis. As with the raw data, skill of players is not accounted for and I have excluded all pre-nerf data to keep everything current. Also possible allies are also not included.

If you think that there might be more done with those numbers let me know

Biblical

Most picked:
Lydian 550-546 BC, 113 battles, 49,56% win rate
Assyrian 681-609 BC, 81 battles, 30,86% win rate
Carthaginian 550-411 BC, 63 battles, 41,27% win rate
Spartan 550-461 BC, 63 battles, 41,27% win rate
Median 626-550 BC, 54 battles, 55,56% win rate

Most overrated:
Assyrian 681-609 BC, 81 battles, 30,86% win rate
Syracusan, 550-461 BC, 27 battles, 22,22% win rate

Must underrated:
Egyptian 664-571 BC, 36 battles, 66,67% win rate
Greek 550-461 BC, 16 battles, 68,75% win rate

Classical

Most picked:
Roman 199-106 BC, 162 battles, 53,09% win rate
Roman 105-25 BC, 162 battles, 43,21% win rate
Antigonid 320-301 BC, 129 battles, 47,29% win rate
Macedonian 320-261 BC, 127 battles, 40,94% win rate
Carthaginian, Hannibal in Africa 202 BC, 126 battles, 57,94% win rate

Most overrated:
Gallic 300-101 BC, 81 battles, 39,51% win rate
Graeco-Bactrian 69 battles, 24,64% win rate

Most underrated:
Samnite 355-277 BC, 114 battles, 62,28% win rate
Ptolemaic 166-56 BC, 72 battles, 59,72% win rate

Late Classical

Most picked:
Palmyran 258-273 AD, 130 battles, 36,15% win rate
Scots-Irish 50-476 AD, 115 battles, 53,91% win rate
Jewish revolt 66-135 AD, 107 battles, 65,42% win rate
Germanic horse tribes 260-492 AD, 102 battles, 50,98% win rate
Ancient British 60-80 AD, 96 battles, 47,92% win rate

Most overrated:
Palmyran 258-273 AD, 130 battles, 36,15% win rate
Roman 197-584 AD, 85 battles, 30,59% win rate

Most underrated:
Roman 425-492 AD, 48 battles, 60,42% win rate
Gepid 493-576 AD, 44 battles, 54,55% win rate

Early middle ages

Most picked:
Arab, City 300-633 AD, 127 battles, 55,12% win rate
Byzantine 988-1041 AD, 72 battles, 38,89% win rate
Sassanid 591-628 AD, 72 battles, 54,17% win rate
Andalusian 756-1049 AD, 63 battles, 77,78% win rate
Polish 966-1057 AD, 63 battles, 55,56% win rate

Most overrated:
Byzantine 988-1041 AD, 72 battles, 38,89% win rate
Rus 960-1053 AD, 54 battles, 37,04% win rate

Most underrated:
Arab Conquest 638-684 AD, 45 battles, 71,11%
Pictish 477-850 AD, 27 battles, 77,78% win rate[/quote]

Does anyone feel there is an advantage to who makes the first move?

I’m not degrading the question - I just wonder if anyone feels there is an advantage to moving first (or second for that matter)...

Edit: Sorry this is probably off the topic of the thread.

Honestly, probably not.

If there's a critical piece of terrain exactly in the center, the first mover may be able to seize it before the other player and gain an advantage. Then again, that sort of thing is usually closer to one side than the other anyway. Alternatively, sometimes I sort of like going second - you can see what your enemy is planning before you start to move, and react to/try and counter it.

Really though, with double-blind setup and the distance between the armies at start, I feel both sides have ample opportunity to react to their opponent's moves before contact is made.

I think there is an argument for larger boards to play on, more like real life, and allows for more Fog of war effects, obviously may favour more mobile armies, but is likely to make people think a bit more about Light units and balanced armies.

DanZanzibar wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 3:10 am Does anyone feel there is an advantage to who makes the first move?

I’m not degrading the question - I just wonder if anyone feels there is an advantage to moving first (or second for that matter)...

Edit: Sorry this is probably off the topic of the thread.

Could be an interesting statistic to record. FWIW, I think its probably player preference. With some armies I like to go second.

DanZanzibar wrote: ↑Sun May 31, 2020 3:10 am Does anyone feel there is an advantage to who makes the first move?

I’m not degrading the question - I just wonder if anyone feels there is an advantage to moving first (or second for that matter)...

Edit: Sorry this is probably off the topic of the thread.

In league not.

There is little advantage in pair games (Slitherine tournament) to start secend and choose game which your opponent start. You see how your oponent set army and you have some inspiration for secend game. But if you send both games on server opponent can repeat the same thing.

I'm trying to play my first turn in Biblical, but when the turn tries to load it presents an error telling me it can't fiond a particualr unit and when I click okay a couple of times the game crashes. I am using th enew TT mod (otherwise I'd not have been able to accept my opponent's challenge), how do I overcome this?


Beat Wishes

Mike