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joerock22 wrote:I like the Russian player's attack at the Axis weak point. He has already forced the commitment of some heavy troops that I'm sure Morris wanted in the east instead. The trick is to not push too far and get caught. Losing guard mechs this early is very bad.

It still looks like Morris has the advantage. He should be able to capture Moscow and seal off the Russian south by winter if he plays his cards right.

To deal with the counter attack is an easy job ,If there was only an east front for 6 more turns , I would accomplish my east mission . But soon later , you will see the allies !!! They won't give me the chance !

July 7th 1942 fair


The Red Army retreat ! Axis move forward & try to outflank Moscow from south .


















In Caucasus , we prepare to take Grozini ( the last mission this year in Caucasus )








Allies come to Sicily , but it seems it is difficult to land in there at present .

I don't see any Soviet tanks, just INFs and MECHs... Kragdob is probably waiting for winter. Anyway, with 4 turns of guaranteed fair weather, Morris may have a shot at taking Moscow. Considering how aggressive he is, I wouldn't be surprised if he managed to take it. The real question is whether the Axis will manage to create a solid defence line before severe winter.

July 27th 1942 fair


Axis has good progress in Russia & almost close to the target , but unfortunately the Allies comes around Normandy ! We have 8 Italian corps & 2 Italian Mech & 1 Italian tank & 2 Germany corp around Normandy & I thought it is enough to deal with a Dieppe . But It will prove that to counter a 1942 Normandy is quite not enough !

That tank in the Causcasus looks exposed... and that landing looks dangerous. Wait, do you want to defend with the Italians?

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

BTW can you show us the casualty screen?

Cybvep wrote:That tank in the Causcasus looks exposed... and that landing looks dangerous. Wait, do you want to defend with the Italians?

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

BTW can you show us the casualty screen?

I have to depend on italians . but they get 3 germany corp & 1 panzer to help them .


Regarding to the casualty , it is classify , but I can tell you that Axis manpower is above 75%.

Aug 16th 1942 fair


In Russia we take Grozini & Kuibichev & kill 5 more Red corps .





























But in France , Allies land in France by strong aitr support (7 tacs & 7FTR & 2 STR). it looks hopeless to reset the contact with Brest . & If we attack the landing troops , it will be badly hurt by the allies air power ! So we choose retreat around Paris !

As the Axis you need to have a healthy strategic reserve in the west so you can quickly repulse any landings prior to 1943 and maybe even 1944.

If all the good units are in the east then it's an invitation to land in France as early as 1942.

The Allies having so many units, especially air units, is probably a result of the Allies gaining full control over the Atlantic so the convoys reach home without being damaged. So the sub warfare is really important for the Axis. You need a healthy sub force to keep the Allies busy in the Atlantic.

With the new sub evasion rules I think the sub warfare will become even more important.

14 FTR-TAC units is nothing special for combined UK-USA forces in mid-1942, especially when they are not busy in the Med. I'm wondering what Morris plans to do about it, because in order to counter the Allied landing, he will have to transfer most of his airforce to France. Since there are not that many fair weather turns left in 1942, there is a risk that the Allied presence in France will become dangerously strong by March-April 1943. Having a second front early on is definitely not good for the Axis, so IMO Morris should concentrate on destroying the Allied beachhead ASAP. He controls half of Russia, so he can easily trade land for time in the East and since most of the Soviet units in sight are just INFs and it's still August, the Soviet counter-strike shouldn't be too dangerous.

IMO it's important to know when to stop when playing the Axis. You don't need to knock out Russia in order to win the game, after all.

Stauffenberg wrote:As the Axis you need to have a healthy strategic reserve in the west so you can quickly repulse any landings prior to 1943 and maybe even 1944.

If all the good units are in the east then it's an invitation to land in France as early as 1942.

The Allies having so many units, especially air units, is probably a result of the Allies gaining full control over the Atlantic so the convoys reach home without being damaged. So the sub warfare is really important for the Axis. You need a healthy sub force to keep the Allies busy in the Atlantic.

With the new sub evasion rules I think the sub warfare will become even more important.

I have more than 10 corps & two tanks in the west , but it is still not enough . But If I move more elite units to the west , it will give Russians a good break & the steamroller will come earlier !

Yes I admit to have a healthy subs is useful . but 7subs means I have to build 4 more subs not including repair fee . It is 200 pp equal to more than 5 corps . But five corps are very important for both west & east front !

I do hope the new sub evasion rules will help Axis a little bit !

Cybvep wrote:14 FTR-TAC units is nothing special for combined UK-USA forces in mid-1942, especially when they are not busy in the Med. I'm wondering what Morris plans to do about it, because in order to counter the Allied landing, he will have to transfer most of his airforce to France. Since there are not that many fair weather turns left in 1942, there is a risk that the Allied presence in France will become dangerously strong by March-April 1943. Having a second front early on is definitely not good for the Axis, so IMO Morris should concentrate on destroying the Allied beachhead ASAP. He controls half of Russia, so he can easily trade land for time in the East and since most of the Soviet units in sight are just INFs and it's still August, the Soviet counter-strike shouldn't be too dangerous.

IMO it's important to know when to stop when playing the Axis. You don't need to knock out Russia in order to win the game, after all.

You will soon find how strong is the Red army even if Axis conquer Stalingrad, two oil field, & even Kubichev ! I was not able to destroy the allies landing troops without air support . so this is the Dilemma which Axis usually suffer during this period ! If Axis has to deal with two fronts from 1942 , Axis has no hope to win the game ! ( BTW, I seldom want to kick Russia out to win the game , just want to weak it as much as possible to delay the steamroller's time table .

I think it's absolutely essential for the Axis to have a strong sub force that can go after convoys. That will force the western Allies to build naval units and strategic bombers early. That means fewer land and tactical bombers to make invasions with.

Balancing the strength between east, west and med is very important for achieving an Axis victory.

Some people say that it's too easy for the Axis to go down in flames because if you make some mistakes you never recover from them. The problem then is that if you boost the Axis strength so average players can hold more easily then elite Axis players will regularly sweep the board with the Allied opponents.

Just look at how far Morris has managed to push in Russia. That is way further than in the real war. So obviously he's stronger there than the real Germans were. That extra power has come at the expense of weakness in the west. Germany don't need a very strong airforce in the east prior to 1943. If they instead have 4-6 fighter units in the west and some tactical bombers then Allied invasions can quickly be dealt with. If the Allies have air superiority in 1942 then you're on your way to losing the game.

Actually I don't really see the point in pushing so far in Russia as Morris does when the Russians obviously retreats. Being far east means a longer distance to retreat before the front line shortens again near Rostov. Germany needs to kill Russian units in 1942 and since they decided to defend near Moscow it would probably have been smarter to just concentrate the air power there to get a chance to take Moscow.

I agree with Morris that you need to hit the Russians hard in 1942 so the steamroller can't begin before the winter of 1943. Doing that and keeping the Allies at bay till 1943 is not so easy, but possible.

I believe Morris will enjoy the sub warfare in GS v2.2. It will make investments in subs more worthwhile. Getting 6-8 subs can really make life hard for the Allies. It will certainly force the Allies to build lots of DD's, strategic bombers and CV's. So an invasion of France in 1942 should be very unlikely. Then the Allies must invade there the Axis aren't, like in Vichy French territory in North Africa.

Stauffenberg wrote: Just look at how far Morris has managed to push in Russia. That is way further than in the real war. So obviously he's stronger there than the real Germans were. That extra power has come at the expense of weakness in the west. Germany don't need a very strong airforce in the east prior to 1943. If they instead have 4-6 fighter units in the west and some tactical bombers then Allied invasions can quickly be dealt with. If the Allies have air superiority in 1942 then you're on your way to losing the game.

If we don't move so deep in Russia , The Russia's income will be around 135-145 pp each turn in 1942 not including the convoys . They will be able to make a terrible Red army with ( 7 FTR, 5tacs, 1 str ,8 tanks , 10 mechs & 35 corps ) .Among them ,the tech of anti tank & air support has almost caught with Axis .Without Luftwaffe's support , do you think the Germans can hold the line in winter & severe winter ?

Exactly Morris,

I was held off only because of your air force, nothing more - if you have less than 5-6 good German fighters then Axis is in trouble in 1942, even if it's fair! I don't know if Morris would be able to take Moscow even if he continued operations till the end of fair season, but there would be heavy fight that's for sure and Germans would suffer heavy losses.

You don't even know how much it costed me to wait that 4 turns for the invasion...

Yes, Atlantic was Allied but with 9 DDs (3 was sent to Med) there was little Axis could do about that.

Stay tuned - this game will still be fun and nobody knows how it will end - all because Morris's mastery and my mistakes

Kragdob wrote:Stay tuned - this game will still be fun and nobody knows how it will end - all because Morris's mastery and my mistakes

yes, stay tuned! at least we will provide sth amazing even if Axis won't change his fate of failure .

Sept 5th 1942 fair

In Russia , although it is still fair , Axis decide to retreat to their defence position & prepare for the bad weather .
But it seems my corps defence line in the north will be alittle weak during severe winter . I have no enough units to make a double defence line .











In France , More allies units land in there . Maybe we will lose Paris soon .

exciting ! I totally support you Morris.

Italian MECH defending Paris? Really? O_o A bit risky, don't you think?

Cybvep wrote:Italian MECH defending Paris? Really? O_o A bit risky, don't you think?

Italians are not able to defend anything my bombers score 2-3 steps per hit.

Kragdob wrote:

Cybvep wrote:Italian MECH defending Paris? Really? O_o A bit risky, don't you think?

Italians are not able to defend anything my bombers score 2-3 steps per hit.

They are just something I have to put in Paris & lose it without any bad feelings . Anyway , even if I put a Manstein Mech in it , they will also take by several Tac's hits ! Fight without airsuperior is really a suffer !