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Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Fri May 24, 2024 1:24 pm
by Jorgito78
I am not a modder nor a programmer but I managed to make some modifications to the Rise of The AI mod, mainly small experiments some time ago with the help of ChatGPT, if someone wants to try it. What I did was pass ALL of the mod code to ChatGPT and some key FOG2 concepts. Then, I proceeded to ask for instructions on how to change some of the code.

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 10:12 am
by SuitedQueens
Jorgito78 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 1:24 pm I am not a modder nor a programmer but I managed to make some modifications to the Rise of The AI mod, mainly small experiments some time ago with the help of ChatGPT, if someone wants to try it. What I did was pass ALL of the mod code to ChatGPT and some key FOG2 concepts. Then, I proceeded to ask for instructions on how to change some of the code.
Can you post a DL here? The proper way to use this mod AI or vanilla AI in general is to setup realistic scenarios where infantry separated by 6 squares or cavalry by 10 squares if we are talking cavalry heavy setups. Similar to chess engines you cant really teach AI to see the big picture without Neural N support, but they are adept at understanding ZoCs, flanking importance, PoAs.

One of the big reasons is that half of gameplay is non-existent for AI i.e. falling back, regrouping and retreating. Another is their crude deploying schemes performed with underlying assumption that opponent gonna tank forward and line say medium foot against rough terrain patch every time.

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 10:24 am
by kronenblatt
Jorgito78 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 1:24 pm I am not a modder nor a programmer but I managed to make some modifications to the Rise of The AI mod, mainly small experiments some time ago with the help of ChatGPT, if someone wants to try it. What I did was pass ALL of the mod code to ChatGPT and some key FOG2 concepts. Then, I proceeded to ask for instructions on how to change some of the code.
Is it possible to “ask” ChatGPT to adapt it to Medieval? Stupid questions maybe, but I just have to ask. 8)

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 10:26 am
by kronenblatt
SuitedQueens wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 10:12 am
Jorgito78 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 1:24 pm I am not a modder nor a programmer but I managed to make some modifications to the Rise of The AI mod, mainly small experiments some time ago with the help of ChatGPT, if someone wants to try it. What I did was pass ALL of the mod code to ChatGPT and some key FOG2 concepts. Then, I proceeded to ask for instructions on how to change some of the code.
Can you post a DL here? The proper way to use this mod AI or vanilla AI in general is to setup realistic scenarios where infantry separated by 6 squares or cavalry by 10 squares if we are talking cavalry heavy setups. Similar to chess engines you cant really teach AI to see the big picture without Neural N support, but they are adept at understanding ZoCs, flanking importance, PoAs.

One of the big reasons is that half of gameplay is non-existent for AI i.e. falling back, regrouping and retreating. Another is their crude deploying schemes performed with underlying assumption that opponent gonna tank forward and line say medium foot against rough terrain patch every time.
Are you adept at programming? Maybe you could then adapt it to Medieval, in addition to making it better in general.

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 11:47 am
by MarkShot
Here it comes, the next headline:

"10,000 Modders out of Work Due to AI"

It's not good enough that AI will replace humans in the work force, but now it is muscling in on our hobbies. Wait to WIN12 and Microsoft Copilot will do it for you. Copilot is going to be like having spiders in your closet.

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sat May 25, 2024 12:11 pm
by kronenblatt
Would be good to have the option at least. 8)

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 6:37 pm
by Jorgito78
SuitedQueens wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 10:12 am
Jorgito78 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 1:24 pm I am not a modder nor a programmer but I managed to make some modifications to the Rise of The AI mod, mainly small experiments some time ago with the help of ChatGPT, if someone wants to try it. What I did was pass ALL of the mod code to ChatGPT and some key FOG2 concepts. Then, I proceeded to ask for instructions on how to change some of the code.
Can you post a DL here? The proper way to use this mod AI or vanilla AI in general is to setup realistic scenarios where infantry separated by 6 squares or cavalry by 10 squares if we are talking cavalry heavy setups. Similar to chess engines you cant really teach AI to see the big picture without Neural N support, but they are adept at understanding ZoCs, flanking importance, PoAs.

One of the big reasons is that half of gameplay is non-existent for AI i.e. falling back, regrouping and retreating. Another is their crude deploying schemes performed with underlying assumption that opponent gonna tank forward and line say medium foot against rough terrain patch every time.
This is one of the "conversations" I had with ChatGPT : https://chatgpt.com/share/ce19cdc8-f2d8 ... bad78ea3d8

And another lenghty "conversation": https://chatgpt.com/share/9d3ec10a-1a2b ... 50b4520f72

And yet another one where I provided Rise of the AI code: https://chatgpt.com/share/72657857-1b06 ... ce81996a82

Ignore the fact that I communicate with chatGPT like if he was a real person (you never know the future, if machines come and take over the world, perhaps they will spare me for being nice :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: )
Seriously, so many ChatGPT prompts in the past made me have some conversations with real people as if they where an AI so I decided to speak with chatGPT as if it was a person.

Hope this helps. :wink:

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 6:43 pm
by Jorgito78
kronenblatt wrote: Sat May 25, 2024 10:24 am
Jorgito78 wrote: Fri May 24, 2024 1:24 pm I am not a modder nor a programmer but I managed to make some modifications to the Rise of The AI mod, mainly small experiments some time ago with the help of ChatGPT, if someone wants to try it. What I did was pass ALL of the mod code to ChatGPT and some key FOG2 concepts. Then, I proceeded to ask for instructions on how to change some of the code.
Is it possible to “ask” ChatGPT to adapt it to Medieval? Stupid questions maybe, but I just have to ask. 8)
I think that if you provided the THREE codes; FOG2, FOG2 Medieval and Rise of the AI code, it would be possible...but providing the code is the difficult part

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Thu May 30, 2024 9:27 pm
by MarkShot
Actually, due to the fact I have a 4090 and play games at 1080p. I am looking at setting up open source LLM RAG solution to provide assistance with complex games via ingesting manuals, useful forum posts turned into PDF, and WiKis turned into PDF. I figure I have 10Gb VRAM to spare while I play which would leave enough for a 7b LLM RAG (or maybe even Microsoft's latest PHI 3B).

* This would help me to switch between games especially as age related cognitive loss sets in.

The only game that really eats VRAM on my PC is City Skylines I. I have seen it got up to 16Gb; most stay between 6-8Gb.

What language is that? LUA? I was playing around with dolphin-2.5-mixtral-8x7b.Q3_K_M.gguf which is supposed to be extremely good at coding.

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:34 am
by VektorT
Does it works with the latest game version or only 1.6.7?

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:20 am
by roguedjack
VektorT wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:34 am Does it works with the latest game version or only 1.6.7?
It works with the latest version (1.6.15).

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Mon Oct 28, 2024 9:58 am
by VektorT
roguedjack wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 11:20 am
VektorT wrote: Sun Oct 27, 2024 1:34 am Does it works with the latest game version or only 1.6.7?
It works with the latest version (1.6.15).
Thanks!

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:30 am
by MarkShot
Hmm ... I have not tried it recently. Just using the stock AI and getting back into the game.

Re: Rise of AI Global Mod v3.12

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2025 6:13 pm
by SuitedQueens
MarkShot wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 7:30 am Hmm ... I have not tried it recently. Just using the stock AI and getting back into the game.
When playing against AI setup realistic scenarios prior to engagement. The reason is AI is to outplay in strategic plans, but they are okayish at tactical nuances besides blindness to future ZoCs takeways and subsequent flanking attacks or pile ups.